Comment on The Anonborn gets recruited
Shanmugha@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
The “natives” who are racist as fuck. I am still thinking about supporting empire because fuck Ulfric, but there is a long time before I come back to Skyrim yet again
still waiting to hear about the non racist natives in tamriel
feel bad for the dark elves in the gray quarter? go look at how the argonians are treated by them. go see that the only reason argonians arent allowed in windhelm is because the dark elves are racist as fuck and would start a riot if they had to live with argonians
The Nords’ early experience with elves was being the victims of genocide so it’s not like it comes from nowhere.
and it came to “Skyrim is for Nords”. which can be expected, yeah, but must not be tolerated
Its not racist to resist change from outsiders who happen to be another race.
it is racist to treat argonians like shit, for example
Or to openly talk about purging your new ethnonation.
But they aren’t just resisting change. They openly talk about purging all the argonians and khajiit, etc.
I might have actually missed that part. Its been a while since I played, and I can’t remember much to do with argonians or khajiit at all besides the tent camps outside cities. What’s going on with all that?
Yeah I remember considering both sides and then just saying fuck it and stopping the quest entirely when it came time to choose.
thinking of the same, honestly. probably add some bloodbath on my way out too
I don’t pick a side in the civil war, but I will murder Thalmor and Stormcloaks indiscriminately.
ToxicWaste@lemmy.cafe 4 hours ago
problem with these arguments is, that they are made from our world understanding and extracted out of an extremely condensed world.
yes, the racism that the different races in tamriel display is objectively bad. but tamriel is an extremely racist continent with an astonishing amount of actual races (not the crap, that is called races in our world). every race in tamriel is strongly racist, many support slavery and warmongering is just daily life. TESV just plays in the home of the nords and therefore we are more exposed to their flavour.
TESV is extremely condensed. how many citicens does windhelm have? maybe 15? the drunk asshole in the gray quarter is probably the most cited source for nord racism. but bethesda had to put one open asshole there, that is even too much for most other inhabitants - if they want to keep racism as a story telling instrument… actually i wish there was more to him. for example you could side with him and harass locals or beat some sense into him. both should have lasting consequences in the world. but that is just not the level of detail we got from TESV…
Shanmugha@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
And there is also no option to say “fuck you both”, especially in negotiations where grey beards live. I hate this duality of being a simp of one side or the other
Godric@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
“With great power comes great responsibility”
I believe if the choice must be between bad and worse, not choosing at all is cowardice.