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Ellvix@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• glimse@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  What the fuck, the English stole everything that wasn’t bolted down and they didn’t take THAT with them? PRIORITIES, guys. Skip the French crap and integrate THIS

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  • BreakerSwitch@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    We can still do it. Time to ask what the turkish word is so we can integrate them into our Frankenstein language

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    • glimse@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I looked it up earlier and don’t remember the exact characters so forgive the romanization but it’s basically changing “di” to “mis” at the end of verbs.

      “It rained” vs “apparently it rained” when you did not actually see it raining but the sidewalk is wet.

      “Ali is sick” vs “Ali is supposedly sick” when you did not confirm it (or perhaps doubt Ali’s claim??)

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      • Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Thanks for making it clearer. Just to add actual turkish so people can see properly :

        Yağmur yağdı > It rained Yağmur yağmış > It’s been said that it rained

        Ali hasta > Ali is sick Ali hastamış > It’s been said that Ali is sick

        Yağmur > rain
        yağ > to spread/to rain dı > past indicator mış > second person reporting, past

        hasta > sick

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• BreakerSwitch@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Hey for no reason in particular, what is that word?

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  • Ellvix@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Evidential past tense. Depends the verb, but it’s usually verb-miş, which kinda sounds like ‘misha’ or ‘mush’ to my US ears. It’s used when you haven’t personally witnessed something. Like if you go outside and see puddles of water and a cloud that just passed and a rainbow, it clearly just rained but you didn’t TECHNICALLY see it rain, so you say yağmur yağmış instead of yağmur yağdı if you had actually seen it.

    So when you find a group of people gossiping, you just hear ‘misha’ ‘misha’ ‘misha’ ‘misha’ because they’re all talking about inferred info, and I’ve heard it called the gossip tense.

    And it’s appropriate to note that I know all this second hand. I don’t know any Turkish (besides Dur = stopsign from geoguessr), this is from my language nerd friend who speaks a decent amount, so I probably need to throw a -miş in here somewhere.

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  • NOT_RICK@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    They said it’s a tense, not a specific word

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    • lessthanluigi@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Then we gotta invent some words!

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