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This is another good example of saying “Fuck (country name)” they’re usually talking about the government of that country, and not necessarily the citizens. For example, Russia can fuck right off, but I’d expect that most Russian citizens are decent people who are merely drowning in propaganda. Lots of people are, all around the world.

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bryophile@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Yes even US Americans are probably just decent people generally. I know it’s hard to imagine with some of these countries but we shouldn’t forget people aren’t their governments.

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- EntheoNaut@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  To be fair, at least 1/3 of us are the deplorables who got us here.
  
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  - bryophile@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    And even they are mostly decent people, just misguided by propaganda/misinformation.
    
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    UsernamesAreForSuckers@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    I don’t think anyone not living in America understands how deeply propaganda is pushed here across media and culture. The ruling class has distorted everything so much it’s hard to have a coherent conversation with most people on real issues. The misinformation and capital class talking points are intensely deep seated.
    
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    chaogomu@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    No. I’ve had several people admit to me that the hatred is the point.
    
    Anyine who still supports this regime is supporting them because of the hatred.
    
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  - Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Their comments are kind of easy to pick out luckily.
    
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- NotSteve_@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Yeah, Americans can be insufferable but I try to consider that they’re indoctrinated from birth and people be people. Birthplace doesn’t dictate the person
  
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Jordan117@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Tbh, Israelis as a whole invite a lot of hate upon themselves by wholeheartedly supporting outright genocide. Public polling there shows a disturbingly large number of even young, secular Israelis advocate for killing everyone in Gaza, including women and children:

zeteo.com/…/its-not-just-netanyahu-a-lot-of-israe…

theconversation.com/in-israel-calls-for-genocide-…

That doesn’t mean every Israeli or every Jewish person is culpable or suspect, ofc. But I think it’s even more justifiable to distrust the country as a whole as it is to distrust the US electorate after re-electing Trump. Netanyahu is corrupt and bloodthirsty, but his policies still enjoy broad support from voters there.

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MrNobody@quokk.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
I fully mean fuck the state and the people of Israel. May their country be destroyed and the lands returned to the Palestinians. Israelis can go flee to the US or something for all I care.

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