in a lot of newer cars they can actually use the A/C to heat and cool the car, rather than using excess engine heat or an electric heater which is especially helpful when it’s cold and you’ve only just started the engine!
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AspieEgg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
When I press the defrost button in my car, it turns both the heat and AC on at the same time. I assume this is to remove water from the air with the AC, then warm up the air increasing its capacity to hold water with the heat.
nova@lemmy.wtf 2 weeks ago
takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Fun fact (well, I suspect you know this already, but some didn’t, I had discussion with someone arguing with me that this is not true):
AC and a heat pump are basically the same thing, AC is just pumping the heat outside instead of inside.
Also when you say modern cars I am assuming you might be talking about EVs. Using a heat pump requires less energy than using resistive heating so it could be energy saving measure.
ICE cars on the other hand can get the heat from engine “for free” (not really, but since the heat will be produced anyway whether you use it or not, so why not use it?) so a heat pump might make a bit less sense in them.
Natanael@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
You still need a heat pump for cooling in ICE cars
takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
True, I mean just for heating using engine is cheaper.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
I assume you mean EVs with heat pumps? I don’t know of any ICE vehicles that do this, seems inefficient to waste mechanical or electrical energy when you have perfectly good waste heat to use upon reaching operating temperature (though you may need to use an aux heater before reaching that, particularly on diesels)
Natanael@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
Lots of new EVs have heat pumps, in cold climates they need it because the car doesn’t generate enough heat just from running.
FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s also an emergency safety heat bleed if your engine is overheating, redirecting some of the heat from that engine block can save your radiator some trouble and keep it going a few more miles
MissingGhost@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
My car is a diesel so it takes a long time to warm up in the winter. They added an electric auxiliary heater to compensate. The air is really hot within seconds.
AspieEgg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
My car is an EV, so it definitely does this because there’s no excessive engine heat to use.
LotrOrc@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yall have a defrost button?
marretics@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
Your assumption is correct Also your car automatically calculates the condensation point and keeps the temperature and air moisture low enough not to cause any fogging on your windshield. Source: I’ve been programming AC unit controls for cars for the last 10 years
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
How upset do you get when your buddy disables auto and proceeds to slam back and forth between full heat and full ac while claiming their shitty dial dj set is somehow waaaaay better than the computer?
marretics@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
That’s an instant un-friending offence
MML@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
They only do this with the automatic controls not basic knobs right? Apparently affected what filter I had to get.
marretics@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
Yes of course. The old school manual controls are usually mechanically connected directly to the flaps, so you cannot have any automated handling there
MML@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Thanks, just didn’t know how far we strayed, my first car had separate keys, apparently the new one can detect air quality and automatically close, new is also relative.
weps@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
thank you for your service