it’s not even true, it’s a false premise – single payer medicare for all wouldn’t ban anything private, in fact medicare itself works alongside private coverage for wealthy individuals and has done so for many decades. it’s nonsense at every level.
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VelvetPinkOtter123@lemmy.world 2 weeks agoIt’s not. The people in this sub didn’t read the article, they’re just reacting to the headline
It’s a 7 year old news article about the potential economic impacts of proposed sweeping reforms to health care in the United States.
It’s literally just an article for economists and investors about potential changes to the market
The quote isn’t even the focus of the article, it’s just one guy pointing out that there’s really nothing to base our predictions on because nothing like these proposed changes has happened before. Health Care is a trillion dollar industry that employs over half a million people nation wide and these companies stocks are popular among retirement accounts.
Nobody is saying single-payer health care is bad, in fact the article even points out the positives, it’s questioning what happens to peoples retirements funds and jobs and what impact would that have on the market as a whole and the economy in both the long and short term
Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
VelvetPinkOtter123@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Aw man, if only you had actually read the article…
Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
If only they didn’t publish a clickbait bullshit tweet
VelvetPinkOtter123@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They didn’t. The tweet says that Medicare for all would abolish Private insurance. At the time, this was correct. The Medicare for all legislation that was being discussed was going to do literally that. Abolish private insurance
Then there’s a quote that says, “There’s no precedent in American History”. This is also true. Private Health Care, for better or worse, is a trillion dollar industry that employs over half a million people nation wide and makes up a decently sized portion of peoples retirement portfolios, never in this history of America has such a thing existed one day and been destroyed the next
The tweet didn’t say anything about private insurance being good or bad. The tweet didn’t say anything about the abolishing of private insurance being good or bad. It just stated two facts.
They’re talking about doing something that has never been done before
Somebody who didn’t read the article decided, for no real reason at all, that it was a hit piece and replied. Then somebody else who didn’t read the article thought the reply was this epic sick burn (even though it’s stupid as fuck because it has literally nothing to do with the article) and then shared it on sites like reddit to a bunch of other people who didn’t read the article and left a bunch of other stupid as fuck comments.
Here we are almost 7 fucking years later, and you’re all still idiots still not reading the article, still sharing the image because you think it’s relevant, and still commenting like you know something
Worse, is that when I point out that it’s stupid as fuck to comment on something you haven’t read, you guys think I’m the idiot. That’s how fucked we are. You’re own comment proves you know clickbait exists and you still don’t think you should read the article before forming an opinion about it. That’s beyond fucking stupid. You’re stupid. You are all stupid.
Tiger666@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Save the markets they said, it will ruin most people like you they said, they dont want their hegemony over health terminated like some stupid ass CEO shot in the street like a dog as they enter their earnings call while stepping over his body.
VelvetPinkOtter123@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The article doesn’t say any of that
ReluctantZen@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
The people in this sub didn’t read the article, they’re just reacting to the headline
I mean, so am I.
FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Retirement accounts are a real issue, but could be solved by having the top wealthiest shareholders pay out to the poorest shareholders until retirements are guaranteed. This could also be combined with Social Security reform that requires wealthy people to contribute more and extract less from the system.
Presumably many of the actual healthcare workers and some of the admin workers would still be needed in a nationalized system. The insurance agents and related admin can all get other jobs. No one dreams of being an insurance agent as a kid, these people would be free to pursue more meaningful and useful work.
None of these are insurmountable problems for a government that actually serves the people instead of money. This article is just prevarication to cover our current governments inaction.
VelvetPinkOtter123@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If you’re asking people who have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo, then of course the problems are insurmountable. I never claimed to have all of the answers, but I know for damn sure that it is a lie that there is no solution, as these “experts” seem to be implying.
Also, no need to be so fucking rude.
Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
because they’re propagandists for the epstein class
VelvetPinkOtter123@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Oh shit, you figured it out. They also get paid by NASA to lie about the shape of the earth. And vaccines cause autism. The news is all lies and literally every single person on the planet is in on it. Journalists, publishers, professors at universities, EVERYBODY!!!
Thank God for random people on the internet that know to never trust the experts or read any articles because they already have all of the answers. Live in a world full of those people is awesome!
jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
plenty of people dream of causing as much harm to as many people as possible, and insurance agents are kinda close to that