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TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

100% of all history from before writing was invented is lost

Not entirely true. Some aboriginal oral traditions have accurately described the Budj Bim and Tower Hill Eruptions that happened 37k years ago, and the dramatic rise in sea levels 7-10k years ago.

The oral traditions of aboriginal tribes is kinda crazy. During the European colonization of australia there are times where you get to see encounters from written documents by Europeans and the history recalled by oral and dance traditions recorded by aboriginals. They tend to match in everything but perspective and often the aboriginal depictions are often more detailed.

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sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
Holy shit that’s crazy. Oldest oral history I knew of was only 14,000

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Malyca@lemmy.zip ⁨16⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
That’s actually amazing that information that old survived the telephone game

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DarkSirrush@piefed.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
The local Aboriginals to me have oral stories about the most recent ice age.

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- Malyca@lemmy.zip ⁨16⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
  If I had money I’d spend all my time learning from these people
  
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- TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Yeah, some of the stuff that has been able to be confirmed via geological studies is just insane. It’s crazy to me how they aren’t more widely known for disrupting the idea of prehistory.
  
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  - Jesus_666@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
    I wouldn’t say the idea of prehistory is disrupted per se. But we have to accept that it’s region-dependent. In any given region (recorded) history started when the oldest still available account was preserved.
    
    Some regions are far better at preserving very old accounts than others.
    
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  - ChicoSuave@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Blame the people who don’t look like them but run the country. Anglo fragility won’t give brown people have a chance.
    
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ol_capt_joe@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
What happened to the Celts’ oral traditions? How are indigenous Australians’ historical depictions still stayin’ alive, stayin’ alive?

(Is it because ignorant bozos like me are oblivious to them?)

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- TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  While the aboriginals underwent and still endure settler colonialism it hasn’t been as long or quite as thorough as the Roman occupation and then christianization that the celts went through. Australia is also so much bigger than the UK, so it would be hard to complete a very effective act of genocide against spiritual or tribal leaders as they did to the druids.
  
  Even so some Celtic oral traditions were still going on strong up till the 19th century, often being little changed over thousands of years.
  
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- DmMacniel@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Well… The Romanisation of Europe happened.
  
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  - Zos_Kia@jlai.lu ⁨57⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
    Which could be described as a genocide of Celtic people
    
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