“Stop voting for those you have no choice but to vote for”
Comment on The System does not work.
RockBottom@feddit.org 1 day ago
STOP. ELECTING. CAPITALISTS.
weeeeum@lemmy.world 1 day ago
multifariace@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Hey! There is usually an honest Christian nationalist further down the ticket you can give your vote.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 1 day ago
/s is mandatory
multifariace@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Sadly it is only the tone and not the facts that are sarcastic.
Ravenheart@lemmy.zip 22 hours ago
I agree. But also, they’re all capitalists. Even the so-called Democratic socialists are capitalists.
CannonFodder@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Yes, and capitalism can work if it’s well regulated. And that means the people have to control the government, not the corporations or billionaires. Thats what’s very wrong in the USA now.
SinAdjetivos@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
The entire fundamental goal of capitalism is to commodify any potential source of profit. That means something like a “well regulated government” which is a guaranteed negative profit engine will always be amongst the first things to be commodified.
The only way that “works” is if the government treats corporations and billionaires with a equal or greater level of contempt than they treat the government. At which point it is, by any reasonable definition, no longer capitalism.
CannonFodder@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Well, the idea is to use people’s greed to drive growth and progress. If the government can shape profit forces to drive life quality improvements of the population, then it can work. This basically boils down to taxing bad shit, or making certain practices illegal. People will always try to game the system and find holes, and the government needs to constantly watch for this and plug the. Then competition within those rules can lead to positive outcomes.
The government doesn’t need to treat corporations or billionaires with contempt, it just needs to ignore their wants and prioritize on the people.schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 11 hours ago
I think this is just a larger cycle of history that has nothing specifically to do with capitalism.
In every society, there are levers of power. In ever society, access to the levels of power grants you more power. Eventually, every society is ruled by a few people who can trivially put their own interests ahead of the interests of everyone else. Eventually, doing so for long enough makes everyone (but the powerful worse off) and the society collapses, at which point the guillotines come out and society resets (best case scenario) or it enters a stable state of serfdom.
This has all happened before. This will all happen again.
RockBottom@feddit.org 18 hours ago
Freedom of “choice”.
pilferjinx@piefed.social 12 hours ago
I normally view them as community-first capitalists. Still better than any kind of totalitarian (no dissent) government.
Murse@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
Yeah this is way beyond voting. Even in the context of just voting, it’s often necessary to vote for a lesser evil. Case in point, all the “Kamala didn’t earn my vote!” who handed Trump the presidency on a silver platter.
You gotta make strategic choices with voting, and sometimes that kinda sucks.
So do that. But also break out the guillotines when the people you voted for start behaving maliciously. That’s what we’re failing, and that’s why things have gone so far shit.
Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
That line has been dead for over a year, you need to find a new scapegoat.
Murse@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
Not sure what argument you think you’re making. If we had a 100% turnout and still had enough people waste their vote on some protest candidate or even directly for Trump as some kind of accelerationist nonsense, the situation would still be what I’m griping about, which is people failing to vote strategically. Nonvoters are only part of the issue.
…and not that it matters, but I don’t buy that article’s pitch for a second. High voter turnout trends blue. A study can hypothesize to the contrary, but a single study doesn’t prove shit (in any context - peer review ftw).
RockBottom@feddit.org 18 hours ago
They have you in a check mate. Some people still don’t see it.
Murse@slrpnk.net 18 hours ago
From the voting angle? Yeah I’m as tired of picking the 2nd worst candidate as anyone else. When I push for voter turnout and encourage folks to vote for the least evil option that has a realistic shot of winning, it isn’t with any expectation that things will improve as a result of that person’s policies, it’s to pull the parachute on our freefall into human rights violations, locally and abroad.
From the guillotine angle? ‘They’ don’t have us in jack, we just don’t have a spine. We could turn this shit around practically overnight, but no one (self included - I’ll own my share of the blame here) wants to get their hands dirty.
RockBottom@feddit.org 17 hours ago
If you have a spine shows once you organize.