All of those things sound great lol.
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Narauko@lemmy.world 1 week ago
This leaves out disarming the citizenry, defunding law enforcement, opening the borders, etc. This is a meme so the intentional skewing both makes sense and is tongue in cheek, but judging by the discussions here, there are a lot of people who seem to be taking this too much at face value.
Squirrelanna@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 week ago
Narauko@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I’m sure they do for some people, I was just pointing out that anything without solid widespread appeal with the liberal left and moderates was left out.
Tiger666@lemmy.ca 1 week ago
Marx is very clear about not disarming the proletatiat.
Narauko@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Very true, Marx had very similar reasons as the US founding fathers for the rights of citizens to be armed. I am not deeply emersed in communist/radical leftist spaces to know exactly how the numbers split, but I do know there are at least a significant percentage who believe it to be obsolete reasoning and not applicable to modern society and arms.
fodor@lemmy.zip 1 week ago
Of course you are one of them, right?
Glytch@lemmy.world 1 week ago
What part of “Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary” is advocating for disarming the citizenry?
You’re so heavily influenced by the right that you don’t even know what the radical left looks like. You’re still talking about liberals.
Narauko@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I am 100% in agreement, but where in US politics is the left actually following Marx’s view on gun ownership? What percentage of the US Left actually agrees and owns guns? I wish it was a significant percentage, but since Leftist gun culture is generally hidden on top of being a minority the optics indicate a very small percentage.
Blue states are the ones with gun bans, and the Democrat party is the big tent attempting to contain the “far left”. Just because actual far leftists don’t agree with it, doesn’t mean either poster in the meme aren’t talking about Republican and Democrat parties.
Glytch@lemmy.world 1 week ago
You’re still talking about liberals.
Tiger666@lemmy.ca 1 week ago
Dude, you have no clue.
Narauko@lemmy.world 1 week ago
What about though? Is there a large and thriving Radical Left gun culture that is regularly out in public and on places like YouTube, being vocal, and being proactive like sueing States and Cities for gun bans that I don’t know about? If there is an actual Leftist version of the NRA that I can also support please let me know so I can do so.
I will still be a Capitalism with guardrails and regulations over Communism type of guy, but want to be able to vote for Universal Healthcare, cessation of Corporate power overreach, fair taxation of millionaires and billionaires, etc without also voting against my 2A rights.
Tiger666@lemmy.ca 1 week ago
Advocating for workers controlling the means of production is not radical leftism, its just leftism. Radical would be to seize the means and kill all the billionaires and landlords.
Glytch@lemmy.world 1 week ago
True, but to liberals anyone left of Copmala is a leftist pinko.