Shaken allows to make a better mixed vodka martini with potato vodka (the one available when Flemming wrote Bond).
Stirred is better with grain vodka or gin.
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terranoid@lemmy.cafe 6 hours ago
Shaken let’s more ice melt, waters it down more, making it less alcoholic. He wasn’t trying to get trashed. He had people to kill.
leftascenter@jlai.lu 2 hours ago
OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
But the total of alcohol in the drink is the same, isn’t it? Just adding more water to it doesn’t get you less drunk.
Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 2 hours ago
It slows the absorption inside the stomach down a tiny amount. So you don’t get drunk as fast. But that is not really important if we are talking about dilution via some additional ice cubes.
crypt0cler1c@infosec.pub 3 hours ago
Yes it does… That’s called Dilution.
BitUnWise@programming.dev 2 hours ago
You’re going to drink the entire drink, dilution would only make you less drunk if you were going to drink a fixed volume
Lurker1347@fedinsfw.app 5 hours ago
Ian Fleming wanted to portray Bond as a guy who knew nothing about fancy stuff and this was done to illustrate that. First off he drinks wodka martini’s which is a bit of a faux pas and second he thinks having a specific preference whether it should be stirred or not made him look like he knew what he was doing. The man was an orphan who grew up far away from anything elegant and most of all he wanted to fit into the Casino Royal lifestyle without knowing the first thing about it.
Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 3 hours ago
Pretty sure that is how spies are trained though. They need to be able to blend in everywhere, and that includes esoteric knowledge with specific preferences in order to not fall out of line with the other pompous people.
amio@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
If you want to blend in, getting a standout unusual and kinda “wrong” drink order would be counterproductive. In an “eccentric” enough crowd it might just pass, but the wiser choice if you’re a spy would’ve been… do more cocktail research, don’t end up going to a foofy place and ask for ice cubes in your wine etc.
Wimopy@feddit.uk 46 minutes ago
In all fairness it seems like it would work. Being a complete background character doesn’t get you close to anyone, and might even be suspicious. Meanwhile a weird order is a conversation starter, and why would a spy be drawing attention to themselves like that?
Plus it does paint a sort of nouveau riche character, explaining how they might fit in a posh area while not being recognised: they’re new and they just made it to those circles. They’re someone who might not be committed to any specific factions or could potentially be more easily manipulated.
It’s a good persona to approach and be approached while explaining away any oddities. Yeah, it’s also a suspicious position, but that’s where you trust your agency to have the background checks pass.