I really don’t know where I land on this. I have severe concentration and coordination issues that flair up post covid, this means that I frequently can’t play Fromsoft games. Admittedly I’m lucky enough that this is not constant, but I think I’m still glad their games exist in the way they do. They are just one developer and it’s a niche genre.
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ashenone@lemmy.ml 8 hours agoWe should abolish all art since there will always be someone with a disability who isn’t able to enjoy it.
roboflop@feddit.uk 8 hours ago
ashenone@lemmy.ml 7 hours ago
I have wicked adhd and there are plenty of authors I can’t enjoy because their prose is too dense. I don’t demand they write to my level, I choose books that I can enjoy reading. Video games seems to be the only art form where people feel entitled to enjoyment rather accepting there will be things that your just not capable of enjoying. If Fromsoft thought they could make their vision with difficulty sliders I’m sure they would. But if they can’t do that then they should never feel obligated to reduce their vision to something lesser to make it more palatable to wider audience
tutter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 50 minutes ago
I’ve never heard a blind person demand that all paintings get narrated. I’ve heard them get real excited when it does happen, which is super nice, but the common expectation is and probably should be, you aren’t able to experience everything. So just enjoy the things you can instead.
I worked as a guide at a rather large museum. We would frequently have various ‘disability friendly tours’. One of em was for blind people (i took them almost exclusively to multimedia or otherwise sound, touch, smell based works unless specifically asked don’t worry).
NEVER have i encountered someone upset that the art was not made available for them. Simply never was in issue. At all. And considering this was a 20 people or group, many tours a day for years thing, i must’ve had well over a thousand people through. Never been an issue.
starman2112@sh.itjust.works 6 hours ago
Do you think the entire artistic value of soulsikes is in their difficulty? That it would ruin them if players with worse reaction time were given the ability to progress at the same rate as players with exceptional reaction time? That Dark Souls would be essentially the same if instead of Gwyn, Lord of Cinder, there was just a floating hitbox with 4,185 health? What a fucking insult to Miyazaki’s writing
DonkeyStar@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Since I’ve seen your other reply, this got even funnier. “Do you think the entire point of pizza is sauce? What a fucking insult to cheese.”
“Pizza has sauce and cheese. People like pizza that has sauce and cheese.”
“I LOVE PIZZA, I JUST THINK PIZZA SHOULD HAVE LESS SAUCE! IT WON’T CHANGE THE PIZZA!”
starman2112@sh.itjust.works 3 hours ago
How exactly do you think your analogy works? Because I think it actually makes perfect sense to let people put less sauce on their pizza if they want less sauce on their pizza
DonkeyStar@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
EXACTLY. What you’re missing is that you’re asking for alterations to someone else’s pizza rather than making your own or finding a different pizza.
ashenone@lemmy.ml 6 hours ago
I mean the entire theme of souls games is overcoming rediculous challenges in the face of what seems like an impossible task. These aren’t games with amazingly written dialogues, or intricate in depth stories. The game you play is the story of your character dieing repeatedly until they overcome a great challenge to meet their goals. It would fundamentally change the game if you could just slide a bar to make it easier.
Let me ask you this, why do you think every game should cater to you? Isn’t it OK for some art to not be for everyone? Isn’t that what we tells chuds when they whine and moan about main characters being women or poc? Why can’t some art be about the overcoming a challenge?
starman2112@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
Sure, and what counts as a ridiculous challenge depends on the player. I can promise you that you have an easier time beating the Dancer of the Boreal Valley at 5,111 health than I would if she only had 2,500. We are playing at different difficulty levels already. The challenge is harder for me.
I don’t. I don’t like visual novels because there’s not enough action, so I don’t play visual novels. I don’t care for sports, so I don’t play sport games. I don’t enjoy the basic mechanics of fighting games, so I don’t play fighting games.
I do enjoy Fromsoft games. I apparently like the stories more than you do since you’re actively insulting them, and everything between boss fights is fantastic. Literally the only thing I’m asking for is the ability to play a game that I already like at the same level of difficulty that you play at. Again, it would not fundamentally change the game if the Ancient Wyvern had half as much health.