A minute of silence for all the people killed by asshole chihuahuas…
Comment on Sophie's choice 70s edition
Skkorm@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Assholes will get big dogs, abuse ignore and isolate them, then act surprised when they act unpredictably.
Breed specific legislation isn’t the answer. The answer is for mandatory training courses predating dog ownership. All dog ownership too. Little dogs can be assholes too.
ExLisper@linux.community 5 months ago
Neon@lemmy.world 5 months ago
how can you get killed by a chihuahua? it nibbles away your toe and you get an infection?!
AquaTofana@lemmy.world 5 months ago
They think that they’re making a clever point. Of course larger dogs are inherently more dangerous than tiny dogs. No one is disputing that.
But to advocate for the complete wiping out of an entire breed versus mandatory training classes for owners is an insane answer.
Make “dangerous breeds” more difficult to get, sure. I agree with that. But I can NOT with the “wipe out all pitbull/rotties/dobermans/GSDs/etc”
ghen@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
A moment of silence for the victims of Labradors then.
Pit bull apologists refuse to just look at the numbers logically. We don’t keep pet tigers, we shouldn’t keep pet pit bulls.
Ataraxia@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Wiping out? Why keep breeding something humans created in the first place. It’s cruel to them and humans. Just like pugs and a bunch of other breeds that are cruel. Dogs are a human creation and humanity shoukd take responsibility and stop breeding them. Mutts are as close as natural and stable as you’re gonna get.
Nacktmull@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Wiping out? Why not just forbid malicious breeding goals, like aggression, bite force and of course torture breeding?
MossyFeathers@pawb.social 5 months ago
Yeah, for real. Pitbulls are the common target because they’re the “vicious dog”. It’s a self-fullfilling prophecy. Talk about how pitbulls are vicious man-killers, people who want vicious man-killers buy them and train them to be vicious man-killers, pitbulls become vicious man-killers. Meanwhile, the people who want a family dog don’t get pitbulls because, well, they’re “vicious man-killers”. The result is that statistics get skewed in favor of the “vicious man-killer” status, leading to people seeing the breed as nothing more than vicious man-killers.
bustrpoindextr@lemmy.world 5 months ago
That combined with the pseudoscience that was spewed by Merritt Clifton, that everyone still quotes today, and you’ve got yourself some statistical issues.
FriedCheese@lemmy.world 5 months ago
People who get pit bulls as “family dogs” have the same issue.
0ops@lemm.ee 5 months ago
I never thought about that
Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
Behavior is influenced by genetics as well as environment. Certain individual animals are more genetically predisposed towards violence than others. Certain breeds of particular species tend to have more of these individuals than others. So, it is possible to have a breed that is violent in that: if you take a random sample of that breed where the individuals are subjected to an identical rearing process more of those individuals will be more violent than average than the average breed has individuals who are more violent than average. (I realize that sentence is probably difficult to digest, but I’m not going to spend 20 more minutes working on this).
Given the data that we have on pit bulls, I think they’re a violent breed. Not all pit bulls are violent, but a pit bull is more likely to be violent than a golden retriever when the two are raised in the same environment.
CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 5 months ago
But you can train a dog to not act on their instinctual prey drive. So why are pitbulls the problem instead of shitty dog owners?
CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 5 months ago
Using statistics without context is not right. Especially when talking about people or other living things that have unique personalities and life experiences.
Clbull@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I agree from both an animal welfare and public safety perspective that we need far stricter laws and regulations on dog ownership in general. But also I also think that some breeds are inherently more dangerous than others. For the American Bully XL in particular, we are talking a new pitbull-adjacent breed which has been bred for both aggression and maximum muscle mass, both to skirt past existing legislation that bans American Pit Bulls, but also because both traits are linked to illegal dog fighting.
We’re also deluding ourselves when we claim that a dog bred to resemble the canine equivalent of Brock Lesnar is a nanny dog and wouldn’t harm a fly, when in actuality losing control of a 145 lb jacked beast has even led to grown adults being mauled to death.
GBU_28@lemm.ee 5 months ago
And a license to have a dog and a rebate for a year or more of medical care for them, for getting them spayed/neutered
BoneALisa@lemm.ee 5 months ago
When big dog acts out: “ahh that breed is aggressive! 😡”
Whem abused purse dogs act out (more frequently and more viciously): “oh isnt he just adorable 🥺”
Sasha@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
I knew someone who had a badly behaved dog, it attacked their partner so they put it down.
A few weeks later “I’m getting another one and I’m going to train it myself” Meaning they just won’t train it, lost their shit when someone called them out as a dog killer. People don’t deserve animals, people suck.