Am I crazy for thinking he’s in for some serious erosion problems without the roots holding the area by the water together?
Comment on User destroys local habitat so they can walk barefoot beside "their" lake
SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
This is just basic beach/shoreline cleanup… it looks good. What’s the problem here?
Hydrii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 hours ago
SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
I think it’s a work in progress, but I agree, I think he should plant some bushes along that ridge line before the sand to prevent that soil from eroding and weaking the tree roots.
Delta15N@lemmy.ca 3 hours ago
Don’t worry, they’ve removed all the roots because they hurt their feet. Nothing bad could happen from doing that when their house is nearby!
Ashiette@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
It’s the Buffer zone between trees, grass and water that is home to many species and a cradle of life. Modifying this habitat to create a beach tend to destroy the fauna.
SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
that buffer zone still exists… the guy didn’t remove the boundary between the beach and sea… it’s still there.
You realize that shorelines shift in change in nature all the time, right? Like, changing tide levels, water levels in lakes, shifiting sands, trees… nothing the original person did is in any way significantly different than normal nature… this “habitat” zone has probably shifted several times in just the course of the year…
Brkdncr@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
It went from marsh to nearly dead sand….
Zorque@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
It mildly infuriates someone who has no connection to it.
SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
there’s nothing even wrong here.
I wish my problems were so insignificant that I had to go look for shit like this to get mad about. What a privilege it must be to be OP. They’re harassing him in his original post too.
Drusas@fedia.io 10 hours ago
Today I learned that calmly pointing out a negative aspect that somebody might not have thought of is "harassing".
Rather than do any sort of harassing, I decided it would be better to express my frustration by sharing it here where I thought some others might sympathize.
And as for your comment on me having no relation to it: we all have a relation to it. Habitat destruction is a worldwide problem with worldwide consequences. And even if it didn't, maybe it's okay to care about non-human creatures.
ShyFae@piefed.blahaj.zone 10 hours ago
It is aesthetics vs ecology.
An “overgrown shoreline” protects the water body like lakes and ponds from too much nutrients running into it. As well as helps protect against soil erosion.
I can see that they mainly just cleared out the area, and didn’t simply build the shoreline there. But I would disagree with decision that was made here.
And if it really is peatland, then a lot of damage has already been done to the local ecosystem.
brackled@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
I think the problem is that this is NOT the natural state of this specific shoreline. If being left alone resulted in trees and grass growing then a sandy “beach” shoreline is not in balance with the local ecosystem. Trimming the grass and clearing a small path for access would have been okay but nuking that span of shoreline has now introduced significant erosion risk. Grasses, shurbs, and roots play an important role in preventing erosion. Maybe the 50-100m stretch won’t be a big deal in the long run but if all the homes in the area follow suit then long term large scale problems will arise. Even still at a small scale, I can already see how close this shoreline is to their home. They have eliminated a decent bit of erosion preventing vegetation that served as a buffer from the back yard of their homes. A few seasons of high and low tide cycles will, at best wash away their “pretty walking area”, and at worst undermine the stability of the soil near the building foundation. There is no easy “undo” for the damage they have done, the closest thing is artificial erosion preventative measures which will be concrete, metal, or some other manufactured system that will be much more of an eye soar then the original condition they apparently hated so much.
ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 10 hours ago
You know nothing of this area.
There is no tide here. There is no current. The water level is content. Because it’s not a real lake: it’s a swamp that has been dredged out to prevent mosquito infestation, there’s a 10-acre buffer zone upstream that prevents silt from the catchment area from filling the lake back up, and there’s a dam downstream to control the lake level. That’s so the entire goddamn area isn’t filled with mosquitoes.
It’s not a real lake! All the lakefronts around it are artificial.
brackled@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Thanks for the clarification. I originally tried to access the piefed post but it wouldn’t load so I worked off the assumption this was a natural lake.
I’ll edit my original post with a note to clarify my misunderstanding.
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 21 minutes ago
it seems piefed has put upma login wall in recent weeks. I’m not sure what does that prevent other than regular users visiting links…
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 25 minutes ago
it seems piefed has put upma login wall in recent weeks. I’m not sure what does that prevent other than regular users visiting links…
SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
it’s not even a natural lake, so the “natural state” of things is sort of a moot argument, no?
OP is just naive af and badjacketing this whole thing about a guy who cleaned up the shorelline at his lakehouse. Probably because they’re jealous, probably because they don’t know wtf they’re talking about and think human = bad.
arrow74@lemmy.zip 10 minutes ago
An artificial lake with native wildlife that’s colonized it is better than an artificial lake with a barren artificial beach.
The best was not to create an artificial lake at all, but that’s out of the home owners control
stoy@lemmy.zip 9 hours ago
If you read the original post, OP explains that the lake is managed, it used to be an overgrown swamp full of mosquitos, the government cleaned it up, raised the water level and created the lake.
Is it isn’t some ancient natural habitat that got ruined.
Zorque@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
How do we know the state it was in before was natural? Invasive species grow and invade natural climes all the time.
Would you suggest all that broken glass was natural too?
Drusas@fedia.io 9 hours ago
That's a ridiculous strawman.
But, supposing that you were being sincere and not intentionally strawmanning: you can clean up glass and other waste without excavating and literally trying to remove any trace of biological presence.