Comment on Hmmm

null@piefed.nullspace.lol ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• HeyJoe@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  cnbc.com/…/why-the-ev-boom-could-put-a-major-stra…

  It was definitely a talking point for a bit. It was looked into and proven incorrect. It was most likely always a lie to further discourage people on the fence from giving up gas cars. I’m sure it had an impact on some people out there so it probably worked.

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  • PlaidBaron@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The models literally assumed everyone charged their car at exactly the same time. It was all anti EV bullshit from the start.

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    • OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      100%

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  • jqubed@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Even when it was easily proven incorrect it remained a common talking point from people opposed to EVs. Much of that opposition was for ideological/financial reasons, so facts didn’t really matter.

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  • gegil@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I wonder whether production of gasoline (per car) takes more power than charging a car

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  • null@piefed.nullspace.lol ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m not so sure it had any meaningful impact or that it was ever even a significant talking point.

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    • Veedem@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      My dad STILL brings it up when EVs are mentioned. It was definitely a talking point in those circles.

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      • null@piefed.nullspace.lol ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Oh well if your dad allegedly brings it up, then case closed!

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• GutterRat42@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That was the argument my conservative coworkers made - “I would support electric vehicles, but our grid cannot handle them”

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• Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You must not hang around with morons.

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• OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Ok

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• bhamlin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So, working for a power company, I have some insight for you on this. This is still the power companies doing bullshit, but there is some truth to the grid being unable to handle electric vehicles. We are seeing the same issue with electric tankless water heaters.

  Most companies, unless you ask and pay for it, will size a transformer for your house as small as they can get away with. 15~25kVA is kinda standard for overhead, while 50~75kVA for padmount is usual (because the same transformer will serve two to four houses).

  If you install a fast charger on your house, and run the dryer, and the water heater turns on, the fuse will blow on the transformer. Then you call in an outage, they have to put a new fuse on, and usually don’t tell you what was wrong. Then once you figure it out, they have to tell you that you can’t do all that (and lose revenue from all the downtime and sending a technican) or they have to put up a bigger transformer.

  It’s far easier to say “lol our grid is old and bad” than “we don’t want to spend out profits on needed upgrades and maintenance”. Meanwhile, data centers are exclusively connected directly to a substation that can handle their needs or to their own dedicated transformer banks directly off of transmission lines. Never are they on some back woods tap fifteen miles from their substation.

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