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• mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

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  • irish_link@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The issue with this kind of stuff is history. As a 40 you’re old American, whose grandfather served in World War II, I had no idea what that tattoo meant before this whole scandal.

    The only symbolism we ever went over in school was the flag and swastika. I believe they thought dumb kids would mimic the iconography to look edgy.

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    • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah, I keep saying this but idiots keep telling me I must have been a dumbass not to recognize it. I told them to show me a single screenshot of this symbol appearing in any media that depicts nazis or WWII and they couldn’t provide one, they just kept deflecting and calling me a dumbass.

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      • vapeloki@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totenkopf_(Symbol)#/media/D…

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      • Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It’s on every SS uniform

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      • irish_link@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I fully admit I am not the smartest or best student of history. However I recall no lessons un symbolism in any history class other than ancient Egypt and Neolithic era or late Stone Age.

        Make not mistake I am not supporting any hatred other than towards Nazis. However when I first saw the image I honestly thought it was from Warhammer or something.

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    • mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I love how the main defense is “bro we all are so ignorant about history that we don’t know one of the most recognizable symbols of the nazis, but trust, we can definitely tell this guy isn’t one”

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  • vapeloki@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Ok, after some closer look, it could resemble the SS “Mützenabzeichen”, but it could also just be a generic skull.

    BTW, the British atme are no nazis are they? www.army.mod.uk/…/royal-lancers/

    I can not say what exactly that tattoo was there is no clear image I found, so I can not jump to conclusions in any direction.

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    • mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      He doesn’t even deny it though?? He confirmed it was a totenkopf in interviews with cenk uygur for example. Good god, the amount of proof you all require to confirm that the tattoo of a guy defending people getting SS doppelrune tattoos, goes on murder spree’s in west asia and sexually assaults women matches the SS Totenkopf just to confirm that what? He actually is a piece of shit??

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      • vapeloki@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I do not need nothing.

        Why should I care? I want to understand, that’s all. Maybe just read my other comments…

        And, maybe you should read the fucking comments of him defending the SS dudes. He is not a nazi. He is just as stupid as one.

        On the rape, no idea. Of course, believe women and investigate, but still, assumption of innocence holds.

        But after all, America vote a class of Nazis and Neop Babies into power. A convicted rapist, fraud and openly corrupt man.

        But hey, this dude is your biggest problem ATM?

        Yeah. Nobody can help America anymore. You are lost

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    • Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The British symbol looks nothing like a totenkopf, the tattoo looks exactly like a totenkopf, 1-to-1 on every detail, no matter how much people try to pretend otherwise.

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      • vapeloki@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        If you have an image that shows that much detail, please provide it. I really want to see it. I have not seen any. I see some. Black outlines that’s all.

        And from what I can see, the eyes would be different than on the SS version, and details in the bones are also not visible.

        Still, it could be like you said the exact version. I can not tell.

        And of course does the UK skull not look like this. But: skull on bone is a common symbol. Look for the example at this pre-nazi Symbol.

        If we don’t question the given facts, and form our own opinion, we are not better then the real Nazis.

        Discrediting political opponents was fire part of their playbook.

        (I am a German anitfaschist, breaking Nazi bones since 2000, and I am not here to defend anyone, just to animate independent thinking)

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  • vapeloki@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Thanks a lot!

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• Vittelius@feddit.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

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  houseandwhips.com/…/graham-platner-totenkopf-tatt…

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