Games on Xbox Game Pass can be modded. Granted, it’s not as easy as something from Steam for the older games but saying they can’t is blatently false. Older games still require to take ownership of files but newer games give you full access. There’s a number of Forza Horizon 6 mods already.
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Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
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Why? As if steam and co aren’t bad enough in the sense of renting-not-owning. This is literal renting.
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No mods
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Microsoft is so untrustworthy. Why subscribe to something that is probably gone tomorrow. They half-assed or killed so many projects…
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Pressure…when will the game vanish that I just installed?
pycorax@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Fair point. I just remembered the countless “how does this work on gamepads”-comments on nexus.
Prox@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Look I know it’s cool to hate on Microslop, but c’mon.
Microsoft is fucked from a business perspective, but Game Pass was a great idea and a great offering right up until they fucked themselves from a business perspective by buying Activision for an ocean of money.
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
There are also mods in some games on console, they just can’t use script extenders like PC modding often can.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
This wasn’t microslop-hate. Just knowing how many things they just ended and how inherently sucky renting is. I regularly get gifted passes and never felt compelled to even try it.
pycorax@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I’m not sure if I’m understanding this correctly but I get the impression that you’re applying game pass to every game you want to play. If that’s the case yea, it doesn’t make sense to get game pass. But for most people, we’re getting game pass for games that we wouldn’t have bought anyways or it’s for a game we’re fairly positive we can finish within the month and don’t plan to play after. I think there’s reasons why, it’s just not a reason that can be applied to every game or person.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
It never made sense, hence i never used it, despite getting keys for it gifted regularly. But, what made me wonder in your comment, why do you want to play a game you wouldn’t have bought? Too shitty to buy, good enough to play? Or is it “too expensive for my interests to buy, but interesting enough to play a while for some lil bucks”?
Katana314@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
“Rent everything, own nothing” is a complete non sequitor. Ori and the Will of the Wisps came out. I could buy it, in which case I own it forever on my Microsoft account, or if it’s a game I have less confidence in, I could play it on Game Pass. And if I only have mild interest, then at some point if/when it’s removed or I unsubscribe, I don’t care.
I get so fucking irate at these doomfantasizers that claim because a rental method exists, games are being “stolen” from them and the purchase option is being killed. This is why no analyst worth their salt listens to gamers.
Ensuring games we buy still run after 10 years is mostly a technical challenge, which we should still try to push devs to finish by legislation. It is not a war game makers are actively fighting against (Xbox even put HUGE amounts of effort into helping you emulate your old x360 games). I’m all for preservation, but so often picturing it as a battle against a corporate boogeyman really exaggerates their role.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
No it’s not. If it were up to devs or gaming-platforms or whomever, this would be the future, like it will be with nearly everything. People rent homes, cars, features IN CARS, games, movies, series…and nvidia would love if everyone would switch to geforce-now (and the others that tried). The best model to profit off a thing, is letting you rent the thing. Not letting you buy it.
…and beyond the point. Despite it being true.
the point wasn’t about preservation (yeah it’s fucking important too), but the future of - in this very special case - games if more games will be rented than bought. Rising prices and lowered incomes really help well to drive this.
Action_Bastid@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Microsoft have already erased everyone’s library once before when they shut down the original Games for Windows store. They already have a track record of showing they’re perfectly willing to yank everyone’s licenses and shut everything down until they decide they actually they do want to be in the games space again.
Game Pass is already their second attempt at this, and there are a lot of people who don’t trust them not to rug pull again.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
What rug pull? You pay a subscription and know exactly when they’re going to revoke your licenses.