Comment on "influencers" are setting us back

DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Also people think being smarter means knowing more, which is stupid. A guy who spent thousands of hours studying random topic is obviously going to know more about it, no matter how smart you are it just doesn’t replace time spent learning

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  • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    That’s me, I’m a complete dumbass but I like history and recognize that to know the most about history I need to understand it in an interdisciplinary way. Which is how me an barely high-schools graduate has a working understanding of trade networks and macro-economics because how else am I to understand the Late Bronze Age collapse and it’s causes.

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• Jax@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  It wasn’t always this way, though — general education standards have been severely eroded. There was a point in time where you could trust that a civil engineer would have the general knowledge required to understand what they don’t know — thus leaving the decision to better educated minds.

  There are so many things wrong about how we teach each other in the U.S., and wrong with how we perceive being taught. So many people believe that unwarranted advice is the worst fucking crime imaginable, or that correcting someone’s spelling/grammar is a shitty thing to do. So many people are so innately positioned against learning that it’s no fucking wonder why your anesthesiologist has 0 fucking clue what the nation should do regarding immigration. Totally ignorant of the fact that they should absolutely be intelligent enough to come to the correct answers, or at the very least listen to those who come backed with facts.

  I have no idea what should I can do about it beyond being a grammar nazi. /endrant

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  • DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    That’s the thing though…in real life that anesthesiologist is going to be just as confident in their shitty opinion about immigration as a high-school dropout.

    I want that anesthesiologist and that high school dropout to admit that they don’t know as much about immigration as a sociologists, demographers, and immigration lawyers, and should trust those professional opinions rather then their own shitty opinions that are probably based on cable news shows.

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• Jakule17@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  an economist’s opinion on traffic flow

  An economist’s opinion

  Ftfy

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  • DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    There it is though.

    An actual “Economist” will have a Masters in Economics at the least or a PhD in Economics at the research level.

    So I would and should indeed trust an economist on matters of economics more than anyone should trust, well, you on matters of economics.

    You just proved the point of the post. Unless I missed that you are an economist and are poking fun at yourself…

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    • somethingsnappy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Economy is not a science. Hand waving does not equal knowledge that can instruct good decisions on any level. I laughed my ass off in the 3 econ classes I took. Jumped through the hoops, but there’s not much there, there, as they say.

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  • AceTKen@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Economist here. This is pretty much the anti-intellectualism that everyone here is talking about and this is the opinion I’ve seen constantly on Lemmy.

    Most people have no idea what it is that I do and think it’s something to do with making billionaires more money. It isn’t and it never has been and it hasn’t been for anyone that I’ve kept in contact with for many of my classes.

    You don’t have to be involved in financial matters to be an economist either. We’re more involved in finding out root causes and impacts in certain fields.

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    • postcapitalism@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      To be fair while economists do a lot of good empirical testing across disciplines they are notorious for mis-interpreting other fields

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• casualvagrancy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  But there are plenty of antivaxxers with PHDs…

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  • DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Yes. That’s the point. A PhD in Geology does not in any way to qualify a person to declare the safety and efficacy of a vaccine.

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    • casualvagrancy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Many prominent antivaxxers are MDs. A Nobel prize winner in immunology ranks among antivaxxers. There are experts on both sides.

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      • DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Are these people actually actively working in the in the immunology and virology field, or are they paid schills who used to have real jobs but now work for a “think tank” for 10 times what they were making?

        I think you’ll find that these outliers are no longer actively working and have been corrupted by either money or cognitive decline.

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