Comment on Steam Machine pricing announced (from $1049-$1428 USD), reservation lists open

• voytrekk@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  This machine is designed to be played on a 4k TV. Upscaling may help, but it will hard limit the machine in the future.

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  • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Why? 4k is already just past the human vision resolution. Anything denser is just masturbation.

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    • accideath@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Yea, a lot of people don’t realise, how stupid 8K TVs are.

      4K does make a lot of sense in many cases, especially if you set up your TV for an optimal „cinematic“ viewing distance (roughly 2-2.5m for a 65“ TV, for example) allowing it to fill roughly 30-40° of your field of view, as recommended by the SMPTE.
      At 30-40° our eyes have about the resolution of 3-4K (or, technically, a bit less than 100 pixels per degree in greyscale, even less in colour).

      Meaning, you would need a screen that fills more than 40° of your FOV for there to be a meaningful difference between 4K and 8K. That would translate to a distance of less than 2m to the 65“ TV in the previous example. More like 1m if you want to get the most out of the 8K. That’s about the FOV you get in an IMAX theatre. I don’t think very many people would set up their home TV like that, and unless you are, 8K is just throwing money out of the window.

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  • jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Just because you connect to a 4K TV doesn’t mean is has to play in 4K.

    I’ve connected my Steam Deck to my 8K TV.

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    • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Well, at least we now know you have more dollars than sense.

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      • jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        That’s been true for years now! 😉

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• Coelacanth@feddit.nu ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Isn’t Steam Deck pretty much 720p? That’s a whole different kind of ask than a machine you plug into a TV - many of which will want 4k resolution. VRAM requirements really tend to balloon with resolution.

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  • jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Native on the Deck is 1280 x 800. Slightly more than 720p, but not by much!

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    • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      For anyone who wants the numbers: 720p has only 90% of the pixels as the steam deck, assuming equivalent area.

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