Comment on Ubisoft Co-Founder Claude Guillemot Dies In Plane Crash

Nytefyre@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• Dremor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I’d have agreed with you if he was the direct cause of some people death, like that asshole that got Luigi-ed, but he is not. He sure took decisions that ended up making subpart games, fucked over devs, and all.

  He’s a capitalist shark like there are thousands of others, bit does that warrant death?

  People like you are the cause why fascism is on the rise. No humanity, no regrets, no actions taken, until it affects you personally.

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  • DupaCycki@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Few billionaires are direct causes of anyone dying. However, they’re always indirect causes of lots of people dying, by their own choice.

    Is there a valuable difference between shooting somebody and poisoning the food and water of 10 random people? Maybe. Maybe not. Ultimately, you’re choosing to take people’s lives, knowing the outcome.

    I don’t think people care about whether you’re a ‘direct’ cause, as much as they care about whether or not you’re a deliberate cause.

    All of us will probably cause some deaths as we go about our lives. But at no point do most of us make a decision to end someone’s life. Whereas billionaires do make the decisions, and they do it completely voluntarily, seeking profit. They often seem happy about the decisions too.

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    • Dremor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      And in the current case, did he cause any direct or indirect death? Did he chose to cause someone death?

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      • zbyte64@awful.systems ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Depends. What do you think about a suicide as a response from being laid off?

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  • grinning_serpent@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It doesn’t warrant death, no. But people can cheer the death of an awful person without saying “hey we should keep the streak going!”

    And what are you talking about? Our current case of fascism is a direct result of unregulated capitalism, courtesy of neoliberalism.

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    • Dremor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      And what are you talking about? Our current case of fascism is a direct result of unregulated capitalism, courtesy of neoliberalism.

      Not gonna argue on that because it is true. Still, fascism wouldn’t strive as it does without those who only logic is “I don’t like them so he deserves to die”. That’s the logic behind german innaction when jews were getting oppressed, and I prefer fight that now than wait for it to be the majority logic.

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      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Still, fascism wouldn’t strive as it does without those who only logic is “I don’t like them so he deserves to die”.

        This is a straw man, I don’t see anyone here making this actual argument.

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  • baines@lemmy.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    what the fuck kinda apologist bullshit is blaming fascism on people angry about capitalism excess and not the actual fascist

    the fucking mental gymnastics

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    • Dremor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Being angry at capitalist excess is ok. Saying that someone dying horribly is ok because tou disagreed with how it ran is business isn’t.

      Fascist rely on that communitarian instinct to trives. Nazism rise came partly from clever propaganda gymnastic. To the rich, they said the problem was bolcheviks who spread unrest into the masses. To the poors, they said it was the rich jews who fattened on their labor.
      To both they found a scapegoat remote enough to avoid having them interact enough to realize fascism bullshit, and that’s how they won.

      Fascism always tries to dehumanise part of society to make them the scapegoat for real issues, and gain momentum. Refusing those easy narrative is the first and more important step to refuse fascism.

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      • baines@lemmy.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        i didn’t kill him

        i didn’t wish him dead

        his own excess killed him (the number of rich people dying to flight related stuff is crazy disproportionate)

        don’t white wash the harm this man has done

        expecting people to be respectful about his death is pathetic

        blaming fascism on not the fascist themselves is worse

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  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    if he was the direct cause of some people death, like that asshole that got Luigi-ed, but he is not.

    Just an FYI, this is literally how every single one of them justifies their evil to themselves.

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  • brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Agreed…

    It’s crazy it’s so controversial. Don’t dance on peoples graves.

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• baines@lemmy.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  there is a subset of humanity that worships wealth and they are about as intelligent as you would expect them to be

  arguing with them is about as useful as doing so with maga

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  • Dremor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    You’d be surprised how some of those irredeemable people can, in fact be reasoned with, en even can change their views.

    I remember the story of a black man befriending a bunch of klansmen and making them leave the organization.

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    • baines@lemmy.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      lol just dedicate your life to it, no big deal!

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      • Dremor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Which is way more respectable than laughing about it behing internet anonymity.

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