Comment on mindset

• Asetru@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  fem guys already relate to content targeted toward women since their lived experience is closer to that than to the typical man, so no exclusion.

  Shit like this makes my blood boil… “oh, you’re struggling with acceptance and your identity? Well, people ridicule you for not adhering to what boys should be, but the best we can do is offer you stuff targeted at girls because, you know, you’re essentially a girl anyway”. Fuck that. And then telling me about misogyny. Ridiculous.

  we don’t have a duty or obligation to include men in every single conversation.

  This isn’t a female safe space. Posting something here that deliberately leaves out half the population and then complaining that people bring up the stupid line you’re drawing between boys and girls where none is necessary is laughable.

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  • MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    They never said “the best we can do is offer you stuff targeted at girls because, you know, you’re essentially a girl anyway”, you did. If you think there should be more stuff for certain men, you’re free to make it. If not all men relate to that content, I hope they are more capable of nuance than you seem to be. The idea that relating to the experience of another group somehow takes away from your actual identity is not how someone who has a normal relationship with their identity would work.

    I date women as a woman and sometimes men will be talking specifically to other men about dating women and I will find what they say relatable. It does not make me question my gender or sexuality. I just think “wow! So true!” and move on with my day.

    It’s ok to have a similar experience or understanding of the world as someone else, even if they are not talking directly to or about your personal experience.

    They are not drawing a line. You’re welcome to comment what you like, but this is straight “so you hate waffles?” level of reasoning.

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  • Decoy321@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This isn’t a female safe space.

    Yes, it fucking is. It’s a safe space for everyone. That’s literally rule #1 in this place. Feel free to take a week off from here to learn how to be respectful.

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  • velma@sh.itjust.works ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This isn’t a female safe space? Holy shit, way to tell on yourself.

    It’s not just men here and this community isn’t a male safe space either. It’s a shitposting community and you couldn’t handle a woman making a post about a woman’s perspective.

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    • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Is it a safe space or is it not a safe space? Because you seem to be claiming both in one comment.

      Don’t gender it, it’s either a yes or a no. Is it a safe space for all genders, or not a safe space for any gender?

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      • velma@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It’s a safe space for both. It’s not a “male safe space” any more than it is a “female safe space”.

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• FishFace@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  “fem guys” are not even the majority of guys with so called feminine interests.

  It’s not about a “duty to include” but there is a reasonable expectation not to exclude when there’s no good reason to.

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• teslekova@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Quite right. I would also say there is definitely a stigma to men who do not present as fem doing the occasional fem thing, and it is more of a stigma than when a woman who generally presents fem doing the occasional male thing.

  Way less, in my experience, than ever before, but definitely still there. You get less open mockery and more silent confusion these days.

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  • Dasus@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yeah a girl without makeup in a hoodie and sweaters wouldn’t really raise eyebrows as much as a guy in a dress and makeup, I would bet money on that. Perhaps not as much nowadays but I’m sure it still very much exists.

    Especially if you live in rural areas instead of a large city. Probably people living in L.A. etc. can reasonably disagree with this, but in general.

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