The Elder Futhark predates Nazi Germany by well over 1,000 years. Wikipedia says it was used between the 2nd to 8th centuries.
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Warl0k3@lemmy.world 4 days agoThe nazis (in particular their graphic designer Walter Heck) did literally invent the sigrune/doppelrune, it doesn’t have roots in history and there is no excuse for them to have sent it.
PineRune@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Warl0k3@lemmy.world 4 days ago
And the skull and crossbones has been used since the 1700s - and yet people happily run around sporting the Jolly Roger, while someone openly displaying the Totenkopf is pretty much undeniably a nazi.
Jiggle_Physics@quokk.au 4 days ago
Graham knew what it was. He’s a murderous psycho, by his own admission. This aw shucks I didn’t realize this was a nazi symbol shit, is just that, shit. He joined the military because he wanted to kill humans. He went on back to back tours until they said no. He then became a MERC so he could get around that and keep killing people.
grrgyle@slrpnk.net 3 days ago
And people wonder where all the serial killers went. They fuckin got hired for their work.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Okay.
PineRune@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I’m not disagreeing with that, but to say the Nazi shite invented runes is wrong. I thought it was pretty well known that the Nazis appropriated many of their symbols from historical findings.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Sorry, sincere question: do you not see it’s the same thing? They didn’t invent a squiggly line - they invented the concept which is represented as the specific angles of those squiggly lines. That they were inspired to create the symbol by a rune has no bearing on the creation of the symbol.
LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 4 days ago
2nd to 8th centuries… so it’s been out of fashion for over a thousand years, before a certain group decided to ‘popularize’ it again. Hmmmm….
BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Edit: dang are people getting upset over a fact check?
They’re used because you’re defending the Nazis!
PineRune@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Please explain how knowing about the Elder Futhark is defending Nazis?
grrgyle@slrpnk.net 3 days ago
It’s because the topic is about Nazis and the usage iconography that may or may not be associated with Nazis.
I’m not neurotypical myself so I get missing some nuance, but you can’t be neutral when it comes to Nazis, unless you’re actually OK with Nazis getting cozy in our spaces.
You basically have to say fuck Nazis in every comment. Fuck Nazis!
This could all be fun theory history lessons if we didn’t have literal Nazis running around. But that’s not the world we live in, sadly.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 4 days ago
[deleted]Lumisal@lemmy.world 3 days ago
That’s a different symbol?
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
Right, brainfart, it’s about the SS.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world 4 days ago
umm…
mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 days ago
Wrong page?
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
In my mind, yes.
lath@lemmy.world 4 days ago
He didn’t invent shit. He copied a rune and appropriated it diagonally. S, N, Z whatever, it’s the same damn thing. Sowilo.
Ppl keep praising his ass here like he wrote the bible or some shit when all he did was take what was already there and twisted it.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I have really bad news if you think this wasn’t what happened when they wrote the bible…
lath@lemmy.world 4 days ago
If you’re agreeing he didn’t invent shit, I’d recommend amending your comment saying that he did. No need to add legitimacy where there isn’t any. No pressure though.
As for gog, the deed is done and out in the world. Whatever they do from here on out, it will be with this burden attached.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Not even slightly and please don’t try to put words in my mouth, but I don’t particularly feel like going on about how no human creation is truly original or you know, defending a nazi right now.
Probably this will be forgiven provided they don’t do anything more indicative of actually being Nazis. I’m not sure it should be given the spectacular process failures needed to knowingly email out a bunch nazi symbology, their history of trans/homophobic jokes, their insanely miserable work culture… but it probably will be, much as all those previous examples were. It’s depressing.