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Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 1 day agoIs it even possible for common man to take artistic nudes of themselves? Or is it just so far out the realms of average guys that it might as well be impossible?
An artistic nude doesn't need a "perfect" model. In fact what you're describing is the distorted expectations set by the media towards men. Most women are NOT into that.
Also, neither dad bod nor "bear mode" require "shit tons of muscle mass just with a slight faded abs".
Yeah, good point. Not properly understanding attraction in the first place and even less so from womens perspective has probably distorted the exceptions by media too much.
That part does probably come from rage bait of off season Chris Bumstead being referred to as having dad bad.
I think what a lot of people don’t realize is just how many shots are needed to get that one good one. Especially if doing it yourself.
I sent a really classy-looking black and white (because it evened out my skin and made the lace look extra nice) once, and it took me about 40 tries to get one I liked enough to send it. It took awkward positions, my arm got tired af, and if you’d been there in person it looked dumb as hell. Arms in weird places to hide them, legs bent funny, you get the idea. I had to try numerous poses to see what worked and didn’t, and it took about 45 minutes.
I’m by no means a photographer, I’m by no means a model, I’m not even a sexually-inclined person, but I am stubborn and persistent, and I’m introspective enough to know that if I think it looks nice and classy, most others will too.
I think that’s why women tend to have artistic photos and men tend to look like the swamp thing. Dude nudes tend to be the first pic they take, quality be damned. And often in dirty mirrors (do guys not know how to hold a phone to take a selfie without a mirror?).
Now that i think about. I have been a bystander few times when some women have taken pictures, it does seem to take a lot of takes and time. Last one was a random birthday picture and even that took around 20-30 minutes and uncountable number of takes, i got bored, stopped counting and went to the kitchen to grab something to eat.
At the same time i haven’t seen many men do the same they seem to just take a random first picture, even if that and that’s good enough. The exclusion seems to be guys who are photographers or are into it as a hobby.
(do guys not know how to hold a phone to take a selfie without a mirror?).
No, i do not. I wasn’t even aware thats possible. After 4+ years of training and trying to take peogress pics at the end of each phase, i still haven’t figured out how to take pictures of my back or frontal pictures without a mirror.
I wouldn’t be able to take a selfie of my back without a mirror or the timer function, either, so thats normal I think. Frontal selfies aren’t too hard though.
You might benefit from a selfie-stick, or learning to use the timer on your camera app, they really help if you aren’t already accustomed to the hand contortions required to selfie with phone alone.
Otherwise it’s a weird and uncomfortable balancing act where you frame the phone with your index finger up the side, pinky supporting the bottom, two middle fingers holding the back, and hitting the photo button with your thumb.
Examples:
Thats useful to know and I’ll give it a try next time. Thank you.
And thank for sharing, I’ll most definitely appreciate nudes much more from now on.
A lot of female nudes are also boring. It’s just that men tend to wander in the disgusting camp.
It surely helps that a lot of nudes of woman online tend to be made for profit. This warps the perception of reality.
Looking at gone wild it’s pretty equal.
Fair point, as i said it’s biased opinion.
I’m a middle-aged man who doesn’t exercise whatsoever and drinks heavily
I post a variety of stuff, from unhinged performance art to fairly elegant artistic nudes
They’re all well-received
They take effort, but I guarantee that the things that you think make a good photo aren’t what most women are looking for
That’s good to know, I’ve probably been influenced too much by social medias rage bait regarding that matter. Thanks for the grounding.
Whatever you do, completely ignore what guys say (with the notable exception of men like myself)
If you want to know what women like, ask women
And actually listen to them
None of the “yeah, but” bullshit
There is no “but”
Just listen to women.
Good point, just not understanding something tends to make overthink on the subject, but that subject probably falls unde the “just have to take their word for it” thing.
Yes! The meme is literal! Get some eye candy on gonewild going if we want the grow the community having a lot of good OC nudes is what we need, do it for Lemmy
For real though the meme is real, that’s a very sexy pic 🥵
My wife would probably not be really happy if i were to do that and besides im way too insecure/unconfident/uncomfortable(something in that ballpark) with pictures in the first place, i would never take a nude at all. Though i admire the people with the ability to do it.
I have to take your word on it.
For fucks sake ask your wife nudes don’t have to be selfies
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Yes it is possible, and quite fun. I think the main thing with artful nudes is decentering the genitals and kind of focusing more on the whole body. It doesn’t need to erect, fully exposed, and center of the frame. I’ve got a picture of me posing sort of wrapped around a rifle, flaccid dick half covered by the rifle. I by no means have an impressive body, I’m very skinny and not very tall, but this image fucking KILLS whenever I share it. The image has a sort of juxtiposition between the shy/coy body language and the rifle being a symbol of strength/power. You feel me?
That’s a good point. Male nudes usually do seem to be more of a just dick picks than taking the overall composition into consideration.
Under 10% is, yes, mostly unachievable for most people. But I think you might underestimate exactly what it means to be under 10%. You are basically a dried slug under 10%. For almost any body type, around 18%-20% body fat makes you universally sexy, especially if you put 2 hours in the gym a week, or you are generally outgoing/sporty.
I’d argue that significantly more is needed than just 2h per week in the gym and roughly 18-25%. 15%+ and abs are barely visible and I’ve been called fat peak bulk just because stomach was filled with food and I wasn’t flexing abs, faint outline was still visible.
but my view does seem to be rather distorted, so i wouldn’t be able to argue against it in good nature.
If it’s a Botero nude, sure.
What’s that?
Famous Colombian painter who painted everyone as obese
TeddE@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Yes. It is very possible for average dudes to look incredible naked, even to traditional beauty standards. Plenty of gay photographers take on this challenge and have portfolios filled with such shots (presumably in part for the challenge and in part for the subject matter).
Technically this is a tangent to the question you asked, save for the case where they do nude self-portraits. Nonetheless, I have been to a few homes where all the walls filled with their own photos of basically average gay bears in posing in very artistic ways that I’d assume were professional models, if not for the fact that I could identify subjects to their local ‘online dating’ profiles. (And to be clear, while some photos definitely have ‘I’m here to fuck’ energy, many more were going for tender vibes and artistic poses).
Guys with [good, interesting] tattoos appear to make great photography subjects - I suspect that it gives the artist something to compose the rest of the shot around. Unless you’re a modern prude, tattoos don’t carry the stigma they used to, they’re [often] artistic, and broadly well-fitted to the male beauty aesthetic.
Wish I could give you names and such, but in my defense I generally wasn’t visiting to see the wall art.
Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 1 day ago
That’s good to know.