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Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The objective was to try to get religion to appeal to youth. I knew some young 20’s guys in a band who were into it circa 1998.

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  • jaybone@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You mean the goal wasn’t to get rock to appeal to Christians? 😲

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    • RamenJunkie@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I believe you mean “the Devil’s Music”. Getting the kiddos all swinging and gyraten their hips like demons.

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      • dis_da_mor@anarchist.nexus ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        some of that evil pelvic sorcery, i hear

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• chiliedogg@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  When I was a preacher I did a sermon based on that episode. It’s such an accurate picture of a teenager finding a social group that happened to be at church. And Hank accurately calls out how shallow that kind of social faith is.

  At the end of the episode, Hank pulls out a box of crap from fads Bobby had been into and talked about how he didn’t want Bobby’s spirituality to end up in that box.

  For millions of people, church is basically a club where they meet with their friends, and since the church is still the most racially segregated place in America, that’s a problem.

  The “Christian Club” mentality is what allowed the rise of the religious right, when churches should be vocal about justice for the the sick, the poor, and the foreigners.

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  • luciferofastora@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    since the church is still the most racially segregated place in America

    Unrelated to the rest of your comment, I find this observation perplexing. In Germany, the church I went to had close ties to several African communities. I loved their joyful, passionate style of worship-parties, more than what I learned of other churches in Germany. The Africans I knew at that church (refugees) were some of the kindest, loveliest people I’ve known. I’d credit that as being one of the good things I took from my faith: Growing up in frequent contact with different cultures and in a spirit of appreciation, I wasn’t even conscious of the concept of racism.

    My mom once told me that, when she’d been babysitting a friendly couple’s son and pushing him in the stroller on a walk, she got evil looks from some people. For the longest time, I assumed that was just because it was apparent that we had come from different fathers and people thought we were both hers.

    In middle or high school, when I learned about it from history class, the concept seemed so alien to me, like a relic of the past… until I realised that my primary school had one black kid, who was bullied (and a bit violent at times, which I’d now attribute to trauma from fleeing an active warzone coupled with facing racism in a fairly conservative town) while my secondary school had none, mostly upperclass “white” with a few other “white”-adjacent (Italian, Russian) ethnicities.

    The idea that this childhood friend might have drawn evil looks because he was black hit me years later like a freight train of shattered childhood innocence.

    (As an aside, that friend once declared that he’s dark chocolate and I’m white chocolate and if that isn’t the sweetest thing, I don’t know what is.)

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    • BlackVenom@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Poster is probably American… Churches are generally pretty segregated… not that there aren’t less (denomination) segregated ones… But there’s often a stark difference between a Baptist and evangelical church beyond the singing.

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      • luciferofastora@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yeah, I figured. I just found the contrast striking when my own church was the least segregated place I knew for most of my childhood.

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