Comment on An 82-year-old YouTuber grandma was raided by police and SWATs during her live stream last night where she plays Minecraft to raise money for her grandsons cancer. Authorities brought 20 police cars

• edgemaster72@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Meanwhile, when an actual credible threat is ongoing: “We’ll send our best confrontation avoider and check back in about 3 hours from now”

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  • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I will never forgive Uvalde police for that school shooting situation. Not only did they do nothing to stop the shooter, they actively held back parents who were going to do the cops jobs for them.

    If I remember right, 23 kids, and 3 staff members died that day in an attack that took hours, but should have been stopped in minutes. They arrived on the scene 6 minutes after being called. Then they let it go on and on and on.

    I will never forgive Uvalde police.

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    • 13igTyme@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Yeah but like… Weren’t most of the kids brown-ish? /s

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    • Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      When seconds count, they’re an hour away

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• FellowEnt@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I was paid a dawn visit many years ago by an armed unit (UK). The way they ran it was two plainclothes (handguns only) officers knock on the door to assess the threat, with a van full of tooled up guys in balaclavas just outside, just in case. It was all very chill and no unnecessary stress/escalation for anyone. Seems like this would be a more sensible approach.

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  • daggermoon@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It would indeed be a more sensible approach.

    I’m frequently amazed that despite your countries declining standard of living it is still light years ahead of that of my own. I’m actually jealous. Please rejoin the EU as soon as it’s convenient.

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  • Manjushri@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    That sounds very nice. I’m honestly jealous. However, there were 408 mass shootings in the USA last year. That’s more than 110 people shot per day. While I in no way support the policies of the police in the USA, I do have to admit that given the likelihood that the residents of any particular home might be armed, I personally would not want to be a lightly armed and unarmored cop knocking on a door here. I mean, people here have literally been shot just for knocking or ringing a doorbell.

    While all cops are indeed bastards, many of the other people in this country aren’t any better. The left end of the bell curve in this country is very heavily armed and doing their part to help police turn the nation into the war zone they think it already is. Until common sense gun laws are passed and the dumbest and most violent among us are disarmed, it’s not going to change for the better.

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    • FellowEnt@sh.itjust.works ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah I get it, it’s a silly comparison as the potential threat landscape is completely different. It’s a sad aituation over there.

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• Spacehooks@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I wouldn’t be surprised to see there is a episode of something where someone needs to do a crime in area so they pull this so all the cops are in other side of town.

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• Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I mean if they had been told there were gunshots, several dead in the street and hostages. That might be a fairly reasonable response.

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  • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If they’ve been told that there are several dead in the street, and they get there, and there’s nobody dead in the street, it’s time to not go in going pow pow pow.

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    • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Well yes, but its an example of a call you can make that probably results in extreme responses. Would be interested in knowing what they thought they were going to for that kind of response though.

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      • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I can’t think of any call where they need to go in guns blazing unless they can actually see that someone’s shooting, or in the process of being killed.

        Anything else and there’s time to peek in windows, send a drone up to upper floor windows, and so-on.

        Even if it is an actual situation where someone is in mortal danger, doing that will mean they’re not walking into a dangerous situation blind.

        If they do that and can’t see anybody in any kind of distress or danger, then the logical thing is to calmly knock on the door and ask some questions.

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