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LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

I hate nu-trek because beyond the obvious shitty writing, lack of an ensemble cast and true standalone episodes, extremely lame and cheap special effects and just the way it is made (legacy series fitting into a canon rather than actual new events i.e. ENT) - its just very apolitical, bland and not very woke at all. TNG, DS9, ENT - all had real hard hitting stuff to say, stuff thats more relevant now than ever, and is always timeless.

Disco has a nonbinary person just kinda be there, such enthralling commentary, wow! It’s almost a self-parody y’know. Picard has the romulan refugee thing be kinda swept under the rug in favour of the ME3 synthetics vs organics vs giant space octopus doohickey plot, and then the 2nd season invents a new alternate universe that doesn’t actually seem much different from the future picard itself portrays in the first season.

There will never he anything quite like ‘Far Beyond The Stars’ in Trek again, sadly. Nor will there be a ‘Who Mourns for Morn’ for that matter, now we mourn for trek.

That’s okay by me though, All Good Things and all that, and especially so because For All Mankind took up the actual woke space sci-fi mantle, unsurprisingly so since it’s made by Trek and Expanse alumni like RDM, Menosky, Okudas, Shankar etc.

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Noobnarski@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
That and the only time that something remotely interesting happens is at the start or end of an episode.

It’s so that you start watching the episode and then at the end want to watch the next one and it disgusts me because it feels so manipulative.

This is not a soap opera, it’s supposed to be star trek.

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stingpie@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
nutrek is “woke” in the most boring way possible. It doesn’t attempt to challenge the viewer at all. It’s all vague reassurances that go “Oh yes! Aren’t you so very moral? People should have rights! Have a dog treat for being so smart!” You know what I wanna see? How about some postgenderism. Have a society in which binary and nonbinary are both REgressive.

What about an alien race that sees identity as a form of oppression? If identity is used as a way to gauge what someone is and is not allowed to do, is that system restrictive or freeing?

Come on, Star Trek! Give something I can sink my teeth into. I’m starving for something that questions me, that I can actually think about.

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- MrEff@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  This is exactly what I have brought up so many times. I shit on academy for being lowest common denominator shitty writing and people bring out the pitch forks as if I am gay bashing. No, I’m shitty writing bashing, they just wrapped it up in a pride flag.
  
  Remember when DS9 brought in lgbt+ identity discussion through thought provoking situations with deep characters making hard choices that were influenced by their lgbt+ backgrounds or morals?
  
  Now we have- He is so conflicted because he is a peaceful klingon. Life is so hard in our utopia. By the way, did I mention he was gay?
  
  I watch star trek for its deep politics and nuanced pushing of boundaries, not to preach to the choir with a mallet.
  
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Ummdustry@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
my sibling has clearly never mainlined lower decks

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- Feathercrown@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  They should call it higher decks bc of where it is on the tierlist
  
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TwodogsFighting@lemdro.id ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
ST:D is more apt than Disco.

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