Comment on Why do I constantly see testostorone being put into evreything from pills to candy bars but its illegal for trans men to get it?

tomiant@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

• otp@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  OP is saying they can buy these products, but they can’t receive it for medical purposes.

  The answer is that these products don’t actually have testosterone, I think

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  • tomiant@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Oh! All right. Actually makes perfect sense if you ask me. Why should we subsidize that? Yes I know I’m poking a fucking hornets nest and shit but nobody has ever been able to tell me in a straight up manner why or had anything to say about it other than call me a bigot and block me. I look forward to the same treatment this time, because some things are apparently dogma and cannot be discussed civilly- I’m just supposed to fund whoever’s medical adventures because they say so.

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    • otp@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      If you wrap all your questions in that kind of stuff, I can see why you don’t always get favourable responses.

      The short answer is because it’s healthcare to treat a recognized medical condition. I believe that’s predominantly or solely gender dysphoria.

      Wikipedia is generally a good place to get an understanding of you are genuinely interested in learning the answers to those questions. Wikipedia isn’t a trans-rights site or anything, and is probably the closest we can get to neutral without going into peer-reviewed scientific papers (and needing to have the academic background to understand what we’re reading there).

      • en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_health_care
      • en.wikipedia.org/…/Transgender_health_care_misinf…
      • en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoria

      I’m not trans, and I haven’t researched this stuff, so I’m not the best source for this information. But I’m happy to discuss with anyone who has questions that are in good faith. There are a lot of difficult questions, and understanding it requires shifting paradigms we’ve had since we were children. It’s not easy.

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      • bizarroland@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        It’s also the fact that testosterone is a chemical that comes with risks.There are people that abuse testosterone for bodybuilding purposes, there are people that abuse it for sports performance purposes, there are people who abuse it for sex purposes, and there are people who are transgender who will use this without medical supervision to work towards their preferred gender experience but risk injuring themselves in the process.

        You’re not supposed to fuck around with steroids, testosterone is a steroid.

        That’s why people have to jump through hoops to get it, to make sure that it’s being used for good reasons, with appropriate caution, and with concern for their overall lifelong well-being.

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    • alternategait@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      So I don’t know where you are or what your healthcare system is like, but I suspect it’s somewhere with a public system. Do you think it’s good for your system to treat depression and suicidal ideation/attempts? Because transition is the best prevention of suicide attempts for people who are transgender. Full stop. If there was any treatment that came close to the improvement for depressed cis people, it would be considered a god damn miracle.

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    • stoly@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      lol you went in to attack and vent from the start. if you do this often, then you will experience backlash

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    • XeroxCool@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      For the same reason gym membership and therapy is provided. It improves patient quality of life. You sound really angry at people who aren’t hurting you. Perhaps therapy could could. Yes, I’d like to have it subsidized for you. Then try talking to people who don’t conform to your idea of “normal”. Transitioning is not just a breast implant or hair implant. It’s a complete change, not a “medical adventure”.

      Go masturbate and reread your comment. Perhaps the hostility in response to your questions are because you’re asking it like an asshole.

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    • too_high_for_this@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      jUsT aSkInG qUeStIoNS

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      • tomiant@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        See?

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• deranger@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  anabolic steroids are controlled substances

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