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So has my Audi A6 Allroad, bone stock. Actually, I think I took my Chrysler 300M to places no shiny new grand cherokee will ever be taken and that’s a low fwd sedan. People used to ask me if it’s been lowered and I told them it was just the factory handling package.

Stock jeeps, besides the wrangler and that pickup thingy maybe, aren’t much good off road anyway. Which is fine because nobody who buys a brand new vehicle goes off roading with it usually. The Grenadier folks may be an exception.

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OwOarchist@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

Stock jeeps, besides the wrangler and that pickup thingy maybe, aren’t much good off road anyway.

Eh, I’d add old XJ and ZJ models to that list of exceptions as well. Those things could do some shit. Not quite as good as the Wrangler, but they were also much more reasonable daily driver vehicles, too.

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- P00ptart@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  With the back seat folded up, the wrangler is a good daily as long as you’re not commuting far.
  
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  - OwOarchist@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    I used to daily one, sure.
    
    It’s a usable daily, not sure I’d call it a good one. It’s still highly compromised, poorly insulated, loud, prone to roof leaks, etc.
    
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    P00ptart@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    Mines 15 years old and I haven’t experienced roof leaks, even in car washes. It is loud, not as loud as my MX-5 though. My biggest complaint with the jeep is driving on the highway when it’s windy. That shit is scary AF.
    
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- boonhet@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  Oh for sure. I mostly meant in terms of new or newish stock Jeeps. Back in the day they actually managed to make a decent SUV.
  
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