Comment on Literally exactly how it works, too.

• Beacon@fedia.io ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Nothing to agree or disagree with, you're factually incorrect. The observer effect has nothing to do with whether someone's eyes are looking toward it or not. It basically just means when a process is happening and anything external occurs to it then that will change the way the process is happening.

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  • jwiggler@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I was curious, so I went to Wikipedia, as one does.

    A notable example of the observer effect occurs in quantum mechanics, as demonstrated by the double-slit experiment. Physicists have found that observation of quantum phenomena by a detector or an instrument can change the measured results of this experiment. Despite the “observer effect” in the double-slit experiment being caused by the presence of an electronic detector, the experiment’s results have been interpreted by some to suggest that a conscious mind can directly affect reality.[3] However, the need for the “observer” to be conscious is not supported by scientific research, and has been pointed out as a misconception rooted in a poor understanding of the quantum wave function ψ and the quantum measurement process

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    • atx_aquarian@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      The “for dummies” take-away I’ve heard is that the big mix-up is in confusion about the term “observer”. Normal people use it to mean a person’s attention, while physicists use the specific concept of an observer of a particle to mean another interacting particle.

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  • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I think we all understand the joke is that the eyes represent the endpoint of the observation apparatus. That is the first panel is isolated and the second panel has a detector measuring the path that the scientist then looks at.

    So yeah, “eyes” don’t cause a waveform collapse. But how does a two panel cartoon with no words represent no interaction? First panel is blank?

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    • x00z@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      On the other hand, maybe our personal observation doesn’t just cause a waveform to collapse, but also collapses a logical path for said wave backwards into time. This would mean that even the results of the initial observation only collapse at the moment you look at them.

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      • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        So at what point in human evolution was one human conscious enough to have the first observation and therefore spring quantum mechanics into existence in the universe?

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    • CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Someone gets it

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      • Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        That’s not “litterally” how it works then, just “figuratively”.

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• EVIL_MAN@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  You are wrong though.

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• Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Observation in quantum mechanics isn’t like everyday observation. There is no passive observation, you have to interact with a particle to observe it. It’s like putting your hand in front of the hose to see if it’s on. You can see from the spray pattern that when the hose is “observed” the pattern changes.

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  • bountygiver@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    and in this case, seeing the spray pattern is interfering the system not because it is “aware” of you seeing it, but in order to see it there must be light reflecting off it which certainly would have an effect for bombarding it and bouncing off it.

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