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humanamerican@lemmy.zip 6 days agoIf leftists didn’t refuse to vote “on principle” we would be in a much better situation.
If only we got more of those DNC ghouls in office they could have slowed down some of this a bit!
Couldn’t be that the “other party” just absorbs every complaint, atrocity, demand for real change and delivers none. It’s probably those annoying leftists who are messing up progress!
FWIW I vote as often as I can. It’s not hard for me to tell who is more evil and what levers are available to me at the moment.
Your take sucks and smells like a real Reddit-ass analysis of why things are going badly.
I never said anything about voting for Democrats. You made a lot of assumptions just to come here and argue with me.
And there are no thoughtful reasons not to vote. Just excuses that try to launder laziness into righteousness.
Okay, I’ve read through your other comments and you’re right, I misunderstood and misrepresented your POV, I apologize.
For the record, just like there is a large contingent of online “leftists” who don’t do much but whine, there’s an accompanying group of folks who also habitually just whine, but they whine in the ways I attacked you for doing, some flavor of “if they’d only have voted (for Harris/Clinton/etc) then we’d all be at brunch!”
But that’s not what you said, and given your other comments, you probably don’t like those folks either. So yeah, I saw what looked like that and had an allergic reaction lol.
Anyway, my bad, cheers.
Ty!
And yeah, I understand how I could have been misconstrued as advocating “blue-no-matter-who”. So to be absolutely clear: fuck Harris, Biden, Obama, both Clintons, and all the other neoliberal asshats who helped suppress actual progressives from having power within the Dem party and in The US more broadly.
Shut up you bigot!
If they voted for Copmala Iranian schools and hospitals could’ve been bombed by trans people and immigrants.
You have denied them of equal opportunities!
It’s amazing how easy it is to “win” an argument that exists only in your imagination
I’m so fucking glad that I don’t live in 'Murica.
I don’t know what argument you’re responding to. Talk about projection.
Anyway, you probably just saw my username and assumed I’m “one of them”. So let me say this real clear for all the bigots on Lemmy: we don’t get to decide where we are born, and we are not inherently responsible for the actions of our governments. Get it through your thick dumb skulls.
Your opinion on “leftists” is telling
That’s why I think you’re stupid.
Yes Amazon didn’t exist before Trump and they didn’t pay the other side of your duopoly.
freebeacon.com/…/bezos-greases-way-into-dem-estab…
If americans weren’t such losers endlessly voting for one of those you would be in a much better situation.
But I see you’re another one of those campist clowns.
You’re all pathetic and a lost cause, so keep crying.
You deserve it
How many of the people who didn’t vote were leftists not voting on principle?
If only we got more of those DNC ghouls in office they could have slowed down some of this a bit!
Couldn’t be that the “other party” just absorbs every complaint, atrocity, demand for real change and delivers none. It’s probably those annoying leftists who are messing up progress!
flandish@lemmy.world 6 days ago
what principal do you mean? asking harris to say genocide is bad? asking the dem party to cut the horseshit with primaries? asking biden to leave a year before he did?
anyone who voted third party is not why trump is in office, their numbers plus harris’ would still have lost to trump. sadly.
but cut the thick shit pushing horseshit rhetoric like your reply. grow up. stop supporting genocide too.
humanamerican@lemmy.zip 5 days ago
You made so many incorrect assumptions in your reply I don’t even know where to start.
I never said to vote for corporate Dems, let alone stan for them.
I never said not to vote 3rd party. I do it all the time.
I never said that if leftists voted just in the 2024 presidential race that all would be fixed.
And you seem to have forgotten that we get to vote for more than just president.
If leftists voted en masse, my city would have a a very different local government from the one it has today - one that would create a base of power and solidarity to bring change to higher levels of government, and one that would actually take measure to protect us from federal goons.
So maybe engage with my actual point instead of the baseless image of me that you have in your head.
flandish@lemmy.world 5 days ago
they weren’t assumptions but additional points
humanamerican@lemmy.zip 5 days ago
Additional points that were irrelevant, because they didn’t counter any of my actual beliefs.
And as to your question… what I usually hear from the leftists in my town is that any participation in the electoral process makes you a sellout liberal NPC genocide supporter. Or it’s “validating the current system” or some other such nonsense.
The simple fact is that local elections in my city are usually won by a few hundred to few thousand votes. Voter turnout is extremely low, even by American standards, there is almost always an actual progressive (and often even socialists) on the ballot, and they almost always come in second place. If even half of the leftist nonvoters came out and voted, these people would win, and even the soulless corporate shills competing against them would have to shift to the left to stay relevant.
It wouldn’t be THE fix to ALL our problems, but it would fucking help a lot of desperate people.