That is what I thought (and still do, for the most part), but being at the grocery store and starting the oven preheat is pretty nice.
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Red0ctober@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The number of appliances that have an app is fucking insane. I’m sorry, but I don’t need my oven to have internet connectivity. We got by just fine before.
HidingUnderHats@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
Would be super cool if privacy mattered to these companies.
spongebue@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Honest question though: what of real value can a company gain by knowing that I turned my oven to 350, or that I switched my air conditioning on? Assuming app permissions match what’s needed and I’m not giving up my contacts or whatever. Or is that a more common issue than I realize?
tyler@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
What time you usually cook, so the best time to show you other advertisements, or if you’re in the store once super targeted customer by customer pricing gets implemented (it’s already in place in many locations) then the price raises just for you since you turned your oven on (or will turn your oven on in a few minutes).
kboos1@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I could also get more info from your habits and you home type and quality from the thermostat. All at your convenience. I didn’t have to ask for permission to any private information. Just by the oven app alone I would have clues about your personal life-
I would now know about how far you are from home
That you are not home
That there’s no one home or that you don’t trust the people you live with to start the oven
How much you spend on utilities
What’s the average temperature you cook food at
How long you cook
How often you cook
Which part of the oven/stove you use most often
Where your home is located
How often you entertain
Where’s your favorite grocery store
musicjunkie@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Would you be comfortable if there were cameras set up in your house feeding to an unknown entity somewhere higher up the economic food chain whose mission is to find ways to extort you for money? Privacy used to be something many people wanted purely for the sake of privacy without any ulterior motive
To me, it’s rather surprising that people don’t just have an instinctual desire to maintain a degree of privacy in their lives. I dont really want people watching and tracking how often I use my air fryer what times I go grocery shopping etc as it literally feels like I’m being spied on. It’s not about having something to hide it’s about protecting something that’s core to the American identity and has been for centuries. Plus these companies are notorious for data breaches and running psychological experiments on people based on personal data collected on them. I’d rather not be a lab rat for some reptilian tech billionaire and I’ll just preheat my oven manually
You can’t think about what this information does right now to your eye. You have to remember that this data is someday going to be completely categorized via AI and same as we couldn’t predict life post-internet, there’s no telling how problematic it might be to your life to have a more robust profile of your personal information than a more private person once AI has fully taken over society. Your life patterns likely tell a lot more about you as a person than you realize which means they are getting way more from you than merely the temperature of your thermostat. Humans are way more patterned in their behavior than our grade school teachers telling us we are unique and special might lead us to believe
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The app on your phone is likely data mining you
HidingUnderHats@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Agreed
FosterMolasses@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
being at the grocery store and starting the oven preheat is a pretty nice way to burn the house down
Ftfy.
merc@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Especially if you forgot that “X” was still in the oven, for various values of “X”.
Then again, a well designed smart oven might include a burn sensor that would shut the thing off if the smoke got too bad.
HidingUnderHats@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Easy rule, don’t put anything in the oven that doesn’t belong in the oven. Plus it is a double oven, so I know the lower is always empty while there might be a cast iron in the top oven.
IDK about smoke detection, but it does shut itself off after a certain amount of time. Years ago I had an ancient GAS oven that I forgot on for THREE DAYS at like 150. I think that was much more dangerous, lol. Those were the best damn pumpkin seeds I ever made though.
cannedtuna@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Right? Why does my microwave want WiFi access? How bout no?