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HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

The only issue I have with weed, and most other drugs, is that you can’t easily test for them in a person’s system, meaning that you can’t know if someone’s driving under the influence. This wouldn’t be as much of a problem if not for the fact that we have have such a car centric society. I don’t like people endangering other people just for a buzz.

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Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Imagine being so car brained that you base personal freedom around it

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- abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I don’t think this is “car brained”. They’re not saying anything around public transit, just that we need to have a test for DWI and weed. People shouldn’t be jailed for 30 years regardless of the presence of the test or not, but we do still need some other test. Otherwise I guarantee that “don’t drive while baked” will be the next infomercial you see in a few years.
  
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  - Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Missing the point a bit, we shouldn’t base legalization around if people are going to drive their cars on a substance.
    
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    abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    100% agreed. Like I said I think it should be legal regardless, the punishments are way too severe for what it is. But on a completely different note, we do still need the tests. I love drinking and I love smoking, but there are rules of the road, and one of those is “don’t drive the death machine with impaired judgement”.
    
    But yes you’re right, the legality shouldn’t be based on if “but what if they drive”. I’m more saying “if you do some life-disregarding level ignorant” shit you’re still getting in trouble.
    
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- HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I honestly despise you for calling me “car brained”. That insult hurt me more than any other I’ve received. I want to protect pedestrians and cyclists from people driving cars under the influence. I want to limit driving people’s freedom to make life better for everyone. Fuck you.
  
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  - Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    That’s honestly a very odd reaction, for what it’s worth I meant it lightheartedly.
    
    Of course I think pedestrians and cyclists also deserve safety.
    
    I would like to point out however that a majority of incidents are drunk drivers who do not already have a device like that in their car, so it’s a tad bit absurd to indicate your hard line for legalization is that when it would only apply after the fact anyway.
    
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    HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Sorry, that was too rude, I just got really upset… It’s odd, I’ve never really gotten angry at internet comments until now.
    
    I just wanted to point out my single issue with weed, which is more an issue with car centric infrastructure.
    
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GirthBrooksPLO@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
The best way to eliminate this risk is public transit.

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- HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Yes. I want to ban cars too.
  
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CoolCat@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
You can easily test if they’re in someone’s system with a saliva test, so your argument doesn’t make any sense.

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- HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Can you hook a saliva test to a car’s ignition system to only allow sober people to start the car?
  
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  - Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Now lick the knob
    
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  - CoolCat@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    No, but not every car has a breathalyzer. Only repeat offenders get one of those. So the point still stands imo. Maybe someday the saliva test can be hooked up to the ignition.
    
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Diurnambule@jlai.lu ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I am 100% on bike I see no argument on there. Just don’t smoke 3 day before you have to drive.

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Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
They have mouth swabs they use now that can tell for smoking.

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- HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Those can’t be used on the road and can’t be integrated into a car’s startup system.
  
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  - Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    They can be used when pulled over just like a breathylyzer (although this is the law in my state and I’m in USA all places may not have the same rules) but I do see what you are saying about hooking it up to the car like the breath machines.
    
    Man, someone could potentially make a lot of money to be the first ones to roll that out.
    
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TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Eh, you can still do a blood test in conjunction with a field sobriety test. Its not as cut and dry as something like alcohol, but to be honest it really shouldn’t be anyways considering how much more dangerous driving while drunk is.

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Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Oh they don’t really let it stop them over here, they just use whatever shitty system they have available and let you deal with the false positives and the fact it detects it for much longer than you are intoxicated.

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MML@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
If you can’t tell what problems is it causing? What about the elderly, just because they’re not actively impairing themselves further it makes it alright that they are more impaired than a normal driver?

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- HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Elderly people shouldn’t be allowed to drive.
  
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