Had this conversation a while ago with some friends some rich douchecanoe was trying to start an “enhanced games” where performance enhancers are allowed.
Yes, imho, these should be legalized too. People are gonna use them anyway, just like recreational drugs, and there isn’t a drug on earth that isn’t made safer when it’s users can get pure, known quantities of their substance of choice. It also frees up researches to study the shit that people are absolutely going to put in there bodies anyway. Real science is better than bro science.
to be clear, I’m not saying all sports should now allow performance enhancers, but I think a class for enhanced participants would be hella interesting. Assuming it was backed by legit science and done relatively safely
I’ve thought about this a lot and I’ve gone back to being against it. A lot of performance enhancing drugs push your cardiovascular system pretty hard. If everyone is trying to juice as much as possible to win, they’ll end up competing to getting as close to death as possible for our entertainment to achieve the max performance. They’re either killing themselves in the process or shaving decades off their natural lifespans. I don’t know if creating such a system would be ethical.
At that point the deeper research into the substances would be beneficial. As the side effects are proportional to dosing, the damage can be mitigated and with better and actual research into it is helpful in dealing with those side effects.
And as with other drugs, which can be harmful as well and addictive. People are still going to get those, just with worse quality, less certainty that it is the actual substance and needing to rely on bro science to counteract any harmful effects.
Well they already are enhanced, just not busted. With most steroids we already know how long it takes for those to flush out of the system, oddly one of the most studied part and the improvements gotten from enhanced training can be maintained to a degree.
Though i was more on the personal use part. Getting cleaner and actually known substances, as some drugs are rarer but still popular thus those can be laced with other less popular drugs, is going to be better.
Yeah the research part is good as well as currently user experiences and a handful of papers are used to mitigate the negative side effects of steroids which can have flaws and breaks down completely if the affirmationd drug isn’t what it’s supposed to be.
Legalization/decriminalization is great, I have nothing against that. I just have a hard time seeing how drug enhanced competitions don’t turn into people dying for our entertainment.
Kraiden@piefed.social 4 months ago
Had this conversation a while ago with some friends some rich douchecanoe was trying to start an “enhanced games” where performance enhancers are allowed.
Yes, imho, these should be legalized too. People are gonna use them anyway, just like recreational drugs, and there isn’t a drug on earth that isn’t made safer when it’s users can get pure, known quantities of their substance of choice. It also frees up researches to study the shit that people are absolutely going to put in there bodies anyway. Real science is better than bro science.
to be clear, I’m not saying all sports should now allow performance enhancers, but I think a class for enhanced participants would be hella interesting. Assuming it was backed by legit science and done relatively safely
Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
I’ve thought about this a lot and I’ve gone back to being against it. A lot of performance enhancing drugs push your cardiovascular system pretty hard. If everyone is trying to juice as much as possible to win, they’ll end up competing to getting as close to death as possible for our entertainment to achieve the max performance. They’re either killing themselves in the process or shaving decades off their natural lifespans. I don’t know if creating such a system would be ethical.
Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 4 months ago
At that point the deeper research into the substances would be beneficial. As the side effects are proportional to dosing, the damage can be mitigated and with better and actual research into it is helpful in dealing with those side effects.
And as with other drugs, which can be harmful as well and addictive. People are still going to get those, just with worse quality, less certainty that it is the actual substance and needing to rely on bro science to counteract any harmful effects.
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 4 months ago
I’m going to do enhancemaxxing if this becomes a thing. Let’s see if a bit of T-plagias can really help with muscle growth!
bufalo1973@piefed.social 4 months ago
Are you talking about the WWE?
Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 4 months ago
Well they already are enhanced, just not busted. With most steroids we already know how long it takes for those to flush out of the system, oddly one of the most studied part and the improvements gotten from enhanced training can be maintained to a degree.
Though i was more on the personal use part. Getting cleaner and actually known substances, as some drugs are rarer but still popular thus those can be laced with other less popular drugs, is going to be better.
Yeah the research part is good as well as currently user experiences and a handful of papers are used to mitigate the negative side effects of steroids which can have flaws and breaks down completely if the affirmationd drug isn’t what it’s supposed to be.
Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
Legalization/decriminalization is great, I have nothing against that. I just have a hard time seeing how drug enhanced competitions don’t turn into people dying for our entertainment.
Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 4 months ago
Completely fair and yeah that will most definitely happen