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• Squizzy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Militant atheists are just as problematic as religious zealots.

  Lol

  Trying to be the enlightened centrist and saying this. Show me the genocides being committed currently in the name of atheism.

  I dont particularly care, I have religious friends but come on.

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  • Aeao@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot, and Enver Hoxha

    Pick up a book every once I a while.

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    • DozensOfDonner@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      So i don’t really want to read for this subject but i like conversation. Not trying to facetious.

      Did Stalin, Zedong, etc really kill because of atheistic principles? Or more politically?

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      • Aeao@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Dude! You should’ve said that from the beginning! I’m a reasonable person too who just likes to talk!

        Stalin killed arguabley for aithiesm. He definitely killed people for thier beliefs….

        But I understand your question “did they kill for aithiesm (why can’t I spell that lol)”

        No…. But if you acknowledge nopolean of France wasn’t killing people FOR aithiesm. You also have to admit no one was fighting the crusades to actually protect the holly land.

        He’ll Donald trump and his followers say he was appointed by Jesus and practically worship him. Does that make the Iran conflict a holy war?

        No religion doesn’t have anything to due with it.

        I’ve been drinking so go easy and assume I meant things in good faith

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• netvor@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  So what you’re saying is if Bob tells me (your name) has a flying tiger, and I later find out you don’t have a flying tiger… you no longer exists?

  They did not say someone named Jesus did not exist.

  There’s a difference between believing “Joe who had a tiger and a bear and an elephant”, and assuming that there might have been 3 different Joe’s, one with a tiger, one with a bear and one with an elephant, each of them in a different period. Saying “Joe with 3 animals did not exist” does not imply that those Joe’s did not exist.

  I’m not a historian but what I’ve heard (must have been on Alex O’Connor’s podcast) is that even some of the possible historical Jesuses (or “Jesusi” :D) had things going on that were not compatible with what the biblical Jesus was all about. (Such as being cult leader proclaiming that world will end in few years.)

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  • Aeao@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    He said Jesus is a fictional figure. He probably existed and yes there were more than one person with similar but that doesn’t change my argument.

    If you say “this is Bob and he has a tiger” and I find out he does not have a tiger… he still exists as a person.

    But you say “the stories about Bob don’t line up with any specific Bob”

    Okay, that doesn’t stop Bob from being just because someone got a story wrong.

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    • WraithGear@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      now you are just talking about some different guy named bob.

      mario is based on a person, but mario is a fictional character

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      • Aeao@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Mario is based on a plumber. Do plumbers exist?

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• Auli@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  So you say non religious stuff mention him then mention the Quran. Yep good argument there.

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  • Aeao@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    You’ll notice the Quran was said separately from the other stuff. I separated the two because it’s a religious book but not the Bible.

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