Objects can’t consent at all and they never could, permission from an object to act on it sounds exactly like why the right think the left has gone crazy.
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Pacattack57@lemmy.world 1 month agoDead people can’t consent
minorkeys@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Pacattack57@lemmy.world 1 month ago
What do you mean never? When they were alive they could consent. Why does that change when they die? Just because someone is incapacitated through death, doesn’t give us the right to rape them. When consent is not given it is presumed you don’t have it.
minorkeys@lemmy.world 1 month ago
When alive, the body was a person. They are not incapacitated through death, they dead. Gone. The person ceases to be and only the object and memories remain.
Dasus@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Notice how you use the pronoun “they” for what you said is now an object.
Dasus@lemmy.world 1 month ago
And calling people objects is why the right is crazy.
If a person drowns and has no heartbeat, is it okay for you to have a quickie with them before the paramedics arrive to save him? Clinically they’re dead, so… by your logic, they’re an object, and never had the ability to consent in the first place, so quickly fucking them up the arse should be a-okay, right?
Or is there like a timer you have for when a person goes from a person to an object, which then retroactively never had personhood anyway? Is it just time, or is it temperature, or as soon as the smell sets in? Some people have been clinically dead for half an hour in cold water before being resuscitated, the cold helping protect from brain damage. And some people smell like dead bodies while alive.
I’m just curious as to your personal criteria.
minorkeys@lemmy.world 1 month ago
The object never has agency. The person does. This edge case is a fine one, but only suggests that the person is dormant, not gone, and can be returned to life. If a body is in a morgue for a week, that ain’t going to be a possibility.
Dasus@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Yeah. People aren’t objects. Even if human remains were, you’d have a hard time arguing when a person stops existing without “well once they’ve rotted for a week, they’re definitely not alive.” yeah no shit
slickgoat@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Neither can shoes.
Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
Neither can couches.
Pacattack57@lemmy.world 1 month ago
A dead person isn’t equal to a shoe. As humans we show more respect to our dead than old shoes.
Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
I’m sure dead people don’t mind.
Pacattack57@lemmy.world 1 month ago
They might not mind but their family members do
slickgoat@lemmy.world 1 month ago
You said dead people can’t consent. I said neither can shoes. Tell me the bit where I am wrong?
You have now added something about importance, on which I never commented.