Comment on Killing the intellectual future of Iran. Science has no borders.
CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 3 weeks agoA failed state doesn’t just imply the fall of a government, it refers to a degradation of the conditions of a country such that effective governance by anyone is impossible for a period. Think like has happened in Somalia, or Haiti. I’m not going to claim that the Iranian government is a particularly admirable one, but that kind of condition would be even worse for the people living there, and the chances of that process resting in something significantly better when the country finally recovers again aren’t terribly high.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 3 weeks ago
TBH I think even total anarchy, with roving bands of raiders, might be better than a country that wages war on every neighbor and kills thousands of protestors in a short time period. The fact that they ally themselves with China is just more on the pile.
baines@lemmy.cafe 3 weeks ago
bombing this institute solves anything how exactly?
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 3 weeks ago
You’re arguing with a strawman on that one.
baines@lemmy.cafe 3 weeks ago
no I’m advocating that attacking institutions of medicine and science runs counter to actually improving anything you claim to care about
these were the people least likely to be a party to the actual Iranian atrocities
i can’t tell if you are just arguing in bad faith, some kid inheriting beliefs from older family members or just not too bright
Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 weeks ago
Anarchy is not roving bands of raiders. That’s Mad Max you’re thinking of.
Anarchy is a way of living without a hierarchical authority dictating to the people.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 2 weeks ago
It doesn’t have to be, but it certainly can be. I’ll have you know that the roving band of raiders are well read anarcho-communists helpfully enforcing their anti-hierarchical beliefs via a system of rotating shifts of enforcers of public safety and security, and forcefully redistributing food. It’s just that this specific case happens to involve killing everyone who disagrees with them.
theolodis@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
True, let’s hope Israel falls into Anarchy. Ah wait, they only starve the people they ethnically clean, are you talking about Israel???
QUIC1DE@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Random fact: Gaza depends on Israel for both its water and electricity. I’ve never found a “genocide believer” who can explain why Israel would continue to provide both if it truly is attempting to commit a genocide.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 2 weeks ago
They realize they have to kill them slow or else other countries will step in. It’s also why they’re fighting tooth and nail against the ICC’s genocide determination, even having VISA and Mastercard blacklist the judge.
GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
For a moment there I thought you were describing the USA.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 2 weeks ago
You won’t hear any complaints from me if you support killing Trump or funding the resistance, as long as that resistance isn’t backed by something worse like China.
Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 weeks ago
Nothing is worse than the US.
GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I see they brainwashed you good
bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 2 weeks ago
you’re insanely stupid, go touch grass.