Comment on They now put ads in cigarettes

abbadon420@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It’s not wrong to sell tobacco to a grown adult. An adult is responsible for their own choices.

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  • activ8r@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It is wrong to sell addictive substances to addicts.
    Sure, adults have the right to smoke if they want. They are, of course, adults. But that doesn’t make it okay for tobacco companies to advertise harmful and addictive substances to anyone, least of all the people who are already addicted.

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    • AccountMaker@slrpnk.net ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Sure, adults have the right to smoke if they want

      Even if it forces everyone in the vicinity to inhale that crap? Smoking has one distinct feature in that it harms not just the user, but everyone around as well.

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    • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Being an addict does not make a person an invalid. An addict is still an adult capable of consenting.

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      • x4740N@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Addicts are not in proper mental capacity to make an informed decision especially when in a state of withdrawl

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  • bi_tux@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They are burning in hell for:

    • putting ads in my cigarettes
    • being a big greedy company

    They are not burning in hell for:

    • selling tabacco in the first place

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    • Wirrvogel@feddit.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      selling cigarettes to children:
      tobaccofreekids.org/…/2023_12_08-social-media-rep…

      “The findings of this report make it crystal clear: Big Tobacco is going all-in to target youth on social media and it has to stop,” said Yolonda C. Richardson, president and CEO of the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids. “Tobacco companies are among the most sophisticated advertisers in the world – marketing that reaches millions of kids does not happen by accident. Governments need to urgently address tobacco marketing online and ensure that social media companies are held legally accountable for the tobacco and nicotine marketing appearing on these platforms.”

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      • bi_tux@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I wasn’t aware of that, but yeah, that’s a good point

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    • cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Are you a bisexual penguin from Germany?

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      • bi_tux@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Nah, I’m from austria

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  • macrocephalic@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If everyone existed in a bubble then that would be true. Unfortunately your smoking affects others. If you only ever do it outside away from others then it’s probably only causing health problems for you, but that’s still putting load on the health system. However I’m overweight so it would be hypocritical of me to admonish you too much on that front. If you smoke indoors and near other people then you are making everyone smoke for your own satisfaction.

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• MaxVoltage@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  bro if you think selling tobacco a product i literally need to function sends peoope to Hell you need to go to confession

  one catholic to another

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  • Ashelyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I don’t understand this take. You can enjoy a product but still understand that it brings more harm than good to society as a whole. I’m guessing tobacco is something you “need to function” because of the very fact that you regularly used it in the first place, probably at least partially due to the industry’s predatory practices.

    Don’t get me wrong, withdrawal is an absolute nightmare I am blessed to never have experienced firsthand, but cases of lifelong dependence are why those companies should burn in the first place. If there were a way to get you and others like you what you need while wiping the rest of the industry off the face of this planet, I’d do it in a heartbeat.

    If you genuinely enjoy smoking and believe tobacco has enriched your life, more power to you. Perhaps someone selling tobacco to people in your situation doesn’t bring harm, but selling that same product to someone who’s never smoked before and might potentially become hooked for life? Yeah, straight to hell. Fuck them.

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  • Jax@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They aren’t talking about you the user, they’re talking about the ones making the cigarettes.

    Also, I’m pretty sure suicide is a grievous sin in Catholicism no? Is the difference here that it takes a really long time? Or maybe it doesn’t count as suicide because without that cursed knowledge of cigarettes being bad for you, you’d never know you were killing yourself?

    I’m just wondering where we draw the line here.

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  • x4740N@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You may want to chat with someone about that qualified to help you because that sounds like a potential addiction based on your wording

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