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PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

From my understanding, it may be possible to work around some of this, since the program is meant to hook into the game in a number of different ways. Its very possible that an “importance” mask could be added as in input, for example. This wouldn’t fix everything, but would still give a way to separate game elements from environmental details.

That said, theres been so much focus on how it looks. IMO, its completely overblown, especially when all of this needs to be manually configued on a game-by-game basis. Devs can tweak the settings to their own preferences, and make things more or less extreme.

The part thats much more worthwhile of mockery is the fact that they’re demoing a consumer product on professional grade hardware, during a hardware shortage. They couldn’t even get the demo working on a high-end gaming PC, and they think this tech is worth advertising? That is the funny part of all this.

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nightlily@leminal.space ⁨23⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
The inputs from everything Nvidia has said, are simply the final pixel colour values and motion vector information. It’s meant to sit in the same post-processing stack as the upscale. It’s effectively a screen-space post-processing filter over the final image. Nvidia have said that the artist controls are masking (blocking certain areas from it), intensity (so a slider value), and some kind of colour re-grading (since it destroys the original grading). It’s extremely limited.

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ech@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

That said, theres been so much focus on how it looks. IMO, its completely overblown, especially when all of this needs to be manually configued on a game-by-game basis. Devs can tweak the settings to their own preferences, and make things more or less extreme.

It’s wild that every defense of this garbage is “Just have devs spend even more time finetuning for this.” Yes, let’s double (or more) the workload of workers that are already overworked and crunched beyond reason, all for a “feature” that looks like garbage in it’s showcase demo and is so resource intensive that very few users will be able to utilize it, if they even want to.

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- PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Its more an argument against the, “artisit’s intent” and “disrupting gameplay” points. As I said, the feature is dumb not because it “looks like AI”.
  
  Yes, let’s double (or more) the workload of artists and programmers
  
  Do you have any evidence for this? Given whats been shown, this seems relatively easy to implement on the game dev side.
  
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  - Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Even if implementing it turns out to be trivial, testing art assets for quality and consistency will be a nightmare. Especially if the underlying generative AI isn’t deterministic.
    
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    PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Yes, depending on implementation details. I mean, its never going to be completely consistant, but I don’t expect these companies to mind a little brand damage if they get short-term boost in invest.
    
    I’m more thinking that as it stands, the hardware requirements make it DOA for users. They’re saying they’ll improve it, although I have my doubts. That said, even if no one can run it, it may be popular among publishers for screenshots and marketing. On the other hand, if it does actually double dev costs, then it’ll be DOA even for corporate use.
    
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