Comment on What the fuck is going on with Iran and what will happen next?

• DoubleDongle@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

  Going by the polls, roughly one in ten or perhaps more Americans have changed their mind about him already. They’re mostly independents, but he has also lost most of the literal actual Hitler-hailing nazis, which is a serious blow to his people power.

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• neidu3@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Time will show. There are some shitheads, such as Nick Fuentes, who have publicly disavowed Trump, and even Alex Jones is having a hard time defending Trump these days. Defection are happening, but any long term effect will probably be seen via a slow trickle and not a sudden drop in approval rating.

  The truth is, most people don’t stay up to date on the news, so while the base probably won’t notice that the current Trump talking points are inconsistent at best, come a year or two and they will probably notice that they are objectively worse off after Trump decided to spend billions on a war with Iran for dubious benefits. We will never see a point of “That’s it, fuck you!” on xitter. Suddenly the support will lose critical mass and fade into the background just like the teaparty did.

  I’m cautiously optimistic stemming from the fact that ideologies based on hate never succeeds in the long run. They either fizzle out, eat themselves, or on rare occasions implode spectacularly.

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  • Widdershins@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Rectoplasm

    Nice choice of words. Now I have a new band to listen to.

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  • frizop@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    come a year or two and they will probably notice that they are objectively worse off

    This has historically not been the case. Trump supporters are more likely to say things are “great” when asked how the presidents policies have affected them. They are entirely divorced from reality and hang on the presidents words as if their lives depended on it. They accept what he says as truth, and without fail his lackeys repeat those words/lies, things like, “the dow is over 50,000!” that we heard bondi say the other day in a hearing. I think people should be more informed how this is historically similar to nazi germany’s rise to power.

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    • meco03211@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Trump supporters are more likely to say things are “great” when asked how the presidents policies have affected them.

      They’re also likely to say “Biden’s policies” were terrible and “trump’s policies” are the best even if they describe Biden’s actual policies as “trump policies” and trump’s actual policies as “Biden’s policies”.

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• ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I think that most Trump voters support isolationism symbolically. They want a leader who prioritizes them rather than perceived others, but they don’t actually have a strong opinion about specific foreign policies per se. Attacking Iran does challenge that symbolism, but in the absence of direct effects on their own lives, their trust in Trump’s established “America first” reputation will go a long way.

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• RobotToaster@mander.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Some of the more Libertarian ones are rallying around Thomas Massie. He seems like one of the few American politicians who are actually somewhat honest.

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