Comment on Are users who openly parrot literal Nazi talking points allowed here?
Zagorath@aussie.zone 3 weeks agoTo suggest that lebensraum is just some random policy that Germany happened to have in the '30s and ‘40s, and wasn’t one of the core things that made the Nazis the Nazis (as in, the personification of and byword for evil itself that they have since become) is an absolutely wild take to have, in my view.
I screen capped it because I did not want to engage directly with a Nazi. But it was nevertheless important to publically call out that behaviour for what it was. I don’t believe it has no effect to ban Nazis while also, in the relevant context, to use Nazis’ words as examples of what to look out for with other Nazis. If others disagree with me there I would be happy to have a respectful conversation on the topic of whether my comment should have been removed or edited. But I do not believe that there is that nuance to be had with whether the Nazis themselves should be welcome.
Seagoon_@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
I think you should engage.
How else are you going to change minds than by engaging.
GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
“I think you are a disgusting vermin, and anyone remotely liked you, should be killed.”
“That’s interesting. Let’s unpack that.”
You honestly think any kind of productive conversation is gonna happen between these two parties? Tolerance of intolerance in action, right here, folks.
Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 weeks ago
Fyi you’re currently talking to the Nazi who caused this conversation to start.
GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
That’s a Texas sized 10.4
SaneMartigan@aussie.zone 2 weeks ago
Seagoon’s not a Nazi or promoting Nazi shit. I’ve seen them posting here and on reddit for years now. Something has been taken out of context.
CTDummy@aussie.zone 2 weeks ago
A profound lack of awareness or an actual troll.
“I don’t want to engage with Nazis.”
“You should engage. How else will you change my, I mean, their mind.”
lodion@aussie.zone 2 weeks ago
In this case, with the understanding of your comment… there is no point engaging for them to try and engage further, for the reasons others have noted.
Giving you the benefit of the doubt, I think you chose a bad phrase to make your point and have not clarified this in subsequent comments.
Arcadeep@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
“You’ve made Nazi comments and been informed of them, then tried to defend them, and haven’t changed your mind… But I still am not sure if you’re a Nazi”
Is basically what you’re saying right now.
lodion@aussie.zone 2 weeks ago
From another of my comments (the news article the comment was made under referred to banned phrases in QLD):
I took Seagoon_'s comment to be in support of the ban on particular phrases, by highlighting another dog whistle for nazis. Before this, I (like Nath) did not know this was a nazi dog whistle.