Comment on A robot just swapped my electric car's battery

mesamunefire@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I have to ask why? I can’t see any positives outside of fleet vehicles and there are plenty of negatives.

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  • silverbax@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Speed, for one. 5 minutes vs 30 minutes to an hour to be fully charged. Makes a big difference for road trips.

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    • IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m not sure I agree. Lots of EVs have a 250+ mile range. I’d need a 30 minute break after driving that kind of distance.

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      • mean_bean279@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        My wife thinks I’m insane, but my whole family is built where we would drive 10+ hours (710miles~) a couple times a year with only 1 stop at mile like 500 for fuel and a snack. Otherwise we’d just keep going. Some people don’t need a break for a LOOOONNNNGGGG time when driving. Of my friend group (20th people) on road trips only 2/3 need stops every so often. Even my wife has adjusted to my driving nature.

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      • Dkarma@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Lol I just drove 14 hours one way for thxgiving. Waiting 30+ min every 250 miles is a deal breaker… I can gas and piss in less than ten min once every 400 miles. You’d add like 5 hours to that drive at least. Just waiting for charges.

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    • Wrench@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I don’t know why you’d trust a giant battery, absolutely vital to the operation of your car, to some random 3rd party service. To be arbitrarily replaced. And need to rely on it for X miles. Particularly when your use case where you’d even want a quick swap is traveling outside a regular charges’ range.

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      • snekerpimp@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Only in this instance it’s not a third party, it’s the car manufacturer. It’s just like Tesla and their super chargers. Only these guys are replacing the battery instead of charging it.

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  • mesamunefire@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Repairability is massive.

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    • IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Aren’t EV batteries good for the life of the vehicle? Why would you want to replace one?

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      • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You have that backwards. The vehicle is good for the life of the battery. We could design EV where the shell and motor last 30 years, and the battery just swaps out every decade or so.

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      • Mokopa@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Can’t tell if this is a serious comment or not… Sure a battery will last as long as the car, but it’s of limited use of it only holds 30% of its original capacity after 7 or 8 years. Sure. It’ll do 75 miles, so still useful for city drivers, but not for its intended use.

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      • mesamunefire@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Nope! They are not.

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  • dustyData@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I find this kind of comments so stupid. The technology is well beyond proven. Logistics have had swappable batteries for over 15 years since the time of acid batteries. Nio is a rental company first and for them the model seems to be working. It’s compelling for road trips specially since most of the charging stations are broken most of the time and for extremely dense cities where people aren’t allowed to access power plugs at parking spaces. I mean, on the suburbanite hellscape, charging at home will always make more sense, but the US is not the entirety of the world. This things seem to be ripe for success in Asia and Europe.

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    • KevonLooney@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s compelling for road trips specially since most of the charging stations are broken most of the time

      Do you think the battery swap station won’t be broken too?

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      • dustyData@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Sure it can be broken, but since the company runs it and it’s not a set and forget facility, they have a higher incentive to keep it serviced, specially as the company owns the batteries. Tesla’s answer to broken stations is usually “we don’t care use the one next to it that’s derated and only charges at the lowest speed”. While apparently this facilities can fit 3 or 4 swap stations on the same space. One station out of order adds no wait time, and as a last resort it can still have a regular charging station next to it. I fail to see how people settle so quickly on the status quo that companies force them to, and as soon as anything vaguely threatens the status quo they purportedly hate, they jump and attack the alternative. Having options is a good thing, having multiple companies trying different things is a good thing, silver bullets don’t exist, we are all in this together, what is not good is a zero-sum mindset where only monopolistic one-size-fits-all offers can exist.

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    • IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I find this kind of comments so stupid.

      Nice.

      That’s where I stopped reading.

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  • Dkarma@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    20 below and you can swap out the battery quickly. Can’t charge it if it’s dead.

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