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• qyron@sopuli.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  To quote someone a lot wiser than myself:

  It’s a shame stupid people carry themselves through life full of certainty while the wise ones suffer a life of doubt.

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  • TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That’s a paraphrase of a famous Bertrand Russell quote. The original is as follows; “The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt.”

    There’s also the William Butler Yeats corollary; “The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.”

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  • anonymouse@lemmings.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “Ignorance is bliss.”

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• Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  No it hasn’t. Many religions and spiritual texts covered all this stuff in just a couple of pages.

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  • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Please do show the spiritual texts which cover general and specific relativity.

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    • ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The Bible says something about the earth and how it is good and the filament of the sky and some shit, at least that’s what I read on the internet. Many fine people on the internet, the best people, but not me but the best people probably. The best people say the earth may be - and I’m not saying it is but they are saying it - they say that the earth may be flat and that doesn’t take much text to cover I have heard.

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      • flatearth@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        😇

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    • bigfish@reddthat.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If you squint a little, the 7 days of creation in Genesis are relativistic-ish. 1 day to separate light from darkness (photons at 1 microsecond after Big Bang), another to create the sky (opaque universe at 370k years), another to form dry land and create life (earth formed, 9.3 billion years, life at ~0.2by later), etc etc. Anyone with a physics degree able to say what fraction of light speed god must have been travelling to make this happen such that only days passed for them between these events?

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      • TurboDiesel@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Maybe they’re days on a logarithmic scale?

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      • flatearth@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        They are literal days.
        Our God is King of leading by example.
        Also, man was made from the dust of the earth. It was fitting that earth be created before man (also very important for prideful man).
        As He did, so we must do.
        It is repeated constantly that we have 6 days to work, the 7th to be set apart.
        Why?

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    • MxM111@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You are missing the point. The creation myths were considered complete. Nothing left to be known.

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      • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Well yes, people who believe things that aren’t true won’t admit that they don’t know anything. I’m not sure why that’s relevant though.

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    • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Deal if you show me the scientific texts that covered these in 500bc since you think we’ve always know how complex this is.

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      • xintrik@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        If your point was that religions have oversimplified complex science to the point that people thought they fully grasped it, then I agree with you. Otherwise I have no idea what you are trying to say.

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      • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I never made that claim, so how can I show you something I never claimed in the first place?

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  • Moops@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Got 'em lol

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• Sternout@feddit.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  No, before the scientific method was invented, the religious consus was that “All is known”.

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  • veroxii@aussie.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “It’s all written down in this here book.”

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  • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    And Aristotle was worshipped to the point where if people knew from personal experience that something he said was wrong, they’d assume their own experience was what was mistaken. And this despite him not having any connection to their religion at all.

    One example is that they used to think that objects could only have one force acting on it at a time. This could be the “natural force”, which is what makes objects fall when you drop them, or forces resulting from an action being performed on it. As a result, projectiles would travel straight in the direction they were thrown until the natural force took over, at which point they would fall vertically. Somehow this was still popularly believed (by academics at least) well after the catapult had been invented and used in sieges for centuries. It was believed by people who could throw things and observe how they moved with their own eyes.

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