Comment on Mewgenics becomes the most-played roguelite ever on Steam

kip@piefed.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• MrFinnbean@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  Well its does not mean “fuck all”. It means the games are run based and randomised.

  Also Rogue had zero meta progression.

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• tomi000@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Roguelike was the term generally used for all roguelites before they became so popular someone invented a separate word for it.

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• MirrorGiraffe@piefed.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Yeah I get that they created roguelite for games that are based on rng runs and has some sort of async progression and I think that has become a pretty practical genre to categorize a wide array of hands that share those traits. 

  But roguelike should be kept to games like nethack, pixel dungeon etc that share the basic concepts of rogue.

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  • kip@piefed.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    agree re roguelikes but roguelite seems far too broad to work as a genre? like if there was a ‘combos’ genre that included blazblue, bayonetta, and bejewelled

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    • tomi000@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Combos are one specific element in a game, roguelite is the basic concept the game is built on. Also since when are genres very specific? Rocket League and Mario Tennis are both Sports games.

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      • kip@piefed.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        i think i agree with this which means i only dislike roguelite as a top level category. in your mario tennis example it might go something like

        sports ¬ tennis ¬ arcade (as opposed to simulation)

        a mario tennis where it would be practically impossible to win a randomly generated tournament without grinding out some progression would be

        sports ¬ tennis ¬ roguelite

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    • jacksilver@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      And yet I tend to like most games that fall into the “rouge lite” category. It feels too broad and yet also seems to work to classify games.

      I think it may just be a bit like “RPG” or “Action” that are actually very wide categories that now have a lot of subcategories to help better explain them.

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      • kip@piefed.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I like most games that fall into the category

        same. but thinking about it a bit more, i still think it’s a bad name for a sub (sub sub) genre at best, not a top level one, your RPG and Action examples are quite right

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