What-about-ism.
Why should people looking at social media addiction look at the education system?
In what world is it a choice between the two?
Comment on The EU moves to kill infinite scrolling
pglpm@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
Of course such measures are much simpler than fixing the current education system, which is the root cause of lack of critical thinking and self-control.
themurphy@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
jagermo@feddit.org 2 days ago
Yes, it could be better. But its also parents who need to get their shit together. I know so many who park their kids in front of tablet, phone or pc - not for a breather or a short distraction, but as the standard way to entertain kids.
Because they fear that the kids might be bored. But boredom is good, it gets creative juices flowing. However, you have to be hard and tell nagging kids no, and that is hard
If kids have been inducted to immediately get a phone whenever they whine a bit, there is not much school can do.
LukeZaz@beehaw.org 2 days ago
That’s still a separate issue. Infinite scroll is scarcely ever used in a good way, and is almost always used to encourage addictive behavior; something which affects adults just as much as children. It’s a nasty dark-pattern and little else.
As far as I’m concerned, banning infinite scroll could easily be a very good thing, and I’m in favor.
jagermo@feddit.org 1 day ago
100%, Infinity scroll needs to go.
TehPers@beehaw.org 1 day ago
Infinite scroll is scarcely ever used in a good way
Just to clarify, we’re only talking about mainstream social media here, right? Those are the only platforms they’re considering here, and more specifically, only TikTok right now.
“Infinite scroll” is also how you can scroll up in your chat log and see more messages. It’s how you can open logs for a VM online and see logs going further and further back. It’s how you can search for a video on YouTube and keep scrolling down (past the inevitable pile of shit) until you find it.
On social media platforms, and in particular not in a chat interface, it can be toxic.
LukeZaz@beehaw.org 4 hours ago
Just to clarify, we’re only talking about mainstream social media here, right?
Yes, most discussions of infinite scroll center around this use, and it’s what the topic’s on. I’m aware that other uses exist, but frankly I’m not terribly worried about that. Pagination is a perfectly viable alternative for most every case that infinite scroll is used in, especially when paired with a half-decent search system, so even if a clumsy blanket ban were applied I think we’d be fine.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
such measures are much simpler than fixing the current education system
it’s harm reduction while we also work to build a tolerance to the drug … through learning and reasoning.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
The problems are interconnected and should both be addressed. If this is a sore spot for you then you might want to consider your own scrolling habits…
HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
The EU does not oversee education, it’s usually a emember state or even lower level responsibility.
jol@discuss.tchncs.de 2 days ago
Highly educated people can be addicted to gambling tactics too