Comment on Tankie

• Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  They don’t care who “wins”, they profit off of the war itself (and the rebuild for that matter).

  Then why would they love tankies, some of the only people who consistently oppose them building and using tanks?

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  • Mulligrubs@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Tankies are “authoritarian communists”, they are not pro peace in any way, they love tanks.

    (standard definition, not familiar with the tankies that you describe)

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    • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Bedtimes are authoritarian, your parents are dictators

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      • Mulligrubs@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        My parents are dead! (runs out of room crying)

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      • bbboi@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        One day you’ll be an adult

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    • Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Really? Because I’m always calling for staying out of conflicts and dramatically reducing the military budget and people are constantly calling me a tankie because of those stances.

      See, if you don’t want war, it means you support the other side, and however bad “our” side is, the other side is always worse and more aggressive (the media says so, after all) and that means that anyone who’s pro-peace is actually pro-war.

      So it was when I said we shouldn’t invade Iraq and Afghanistan, it meant that I was “a terrorist sympathizer” and “pro-Al Qaida,” and when I say we should stay out of Palestine, people say I’m “pro-Hamas” and when I say we should stay out of Ukraine people say I’m “pro-Russia” and a “tankie.” Consistently advocating against the use of tanks is essentially the defining characteristic of a “tankie.”

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      • bbboi@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You sound much more of an isolationist than a tankie. Lol.

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      • Mulligrubs@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yes, really! I’ve been called a tankie and a Nazi and worse. Don’t judge what a tankie or Nazi is by insults on the internet, hyperbole and bullshit rule.

        Again, your definition is not the standard definition. Tankies love tanks. And Communism. And Stalin. Which is funny, because Stalin wasn’t much of a communist.

        I use the standard definition, that’s it. I am not familiar with the tankies you describe, I haven’t met them… Tankies hating tanks seems wrong to me. Back in the day they loved the T-34 tank and Russia in WW2 and so on.

        Where can I find YOUR definition of “tankie”, the peace loving gentle communist? Seriously

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  • bbboi@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    War makes money

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    • Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      But tankies oppose nearly all wars.

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      • Aljernon@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Tankies seek to use state violence to coerce and terrorize the working class into unquestioning obedience to the state. Sometimes that violence is directed at the working class in other states so it’s hard to argue they oppose war.

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      • bbboi@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Do you know what tanks are for?

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  • humanspiral@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    can’t have war if everyone surrenders too soon.

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    • Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Exactly.

      There’s only one war worth fighting and that’s the class war. Everything else is just throwing lives away for nothing.

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• Aljernon@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  They don’t care who “wins”, they profit off of the war itself

  People kept telling me that the Taliban won the war in Afghanistan but I kept telling them the US Military Industrial complex won.

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  • Mulligrubs@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I agree with you! And as we speak, they are selling weapons to the Taliban, and selling weapons to whoever is fighting Taliban at the moment.

    After there’s nothing left but smoking rubble, the IMF (controlled by the same concerns) will give the winner a “loan.” The winner won’t be able to pay off those loans, so what will they do? Provide them with more loans to cover those loans. The interest is all profit, and the “loan” is never actual printed money in circulation and is “virtual money”, so it costs them nothing. They collect all of that interest with no cost to themselves.

    I’m simplifying, it’s actually much worse than I describe. The more you investigate it, the worse it gets…

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