Comment on What's it going to take to truly stop the US?

mycodesucks@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• ramble81@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Logically that makes sense for an elongated timeline, but that also assumes the US doesn’t ramp up their actions, which sadly seems to be the case. So the question is “what then?”

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  • CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Nations can’t ignore the fact that the US has one of the active militaries in the world. Our Navy is more of less second to none and we have nukes. In the hands of a normal president, we might be fine but you sure as heck know that Trump and his Project 2025 people are just itching to launch one.

    This is a situation where there are no good options. The best you can do is continue political pressure, get other nations to rally behind you in the hopes of creating a strong economic resistance.

    But the real answer is that we, the US citizens, need to fucking take this country back. I hate to say it but protests simply aren’t enough anymore.

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    • Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Protests would be a good start

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      • PlaidBaron@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Protests only work if the governmnt feels beholden to its people. It doesnt. Protests arent enough.

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      • BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Strikes, not protests. Put the country literally to a halt

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      • Soulg@ani.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        There are protests constantly. There was a protest outside the Whitehouse the same day as the Maduro kidnapping.

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      • SlurpingPus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Thank God the protest people are here. They were constantly on Reddit for the last four years saying how Russians need to protest against the dictatorship. Good thing Russians heard that and had the massive protest of Bolotnaya in 2011 and endless protests in the far-east and northern regions in particular. As we know, Russia is a thriving democracy now.

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    • ngdev@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      also the worlds largest air force is the US air force. the second largest is the US army’s air force iirc

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      • thebestaquaman@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I seem to remember reading that the US navy comes in second (which makes sense considering that a single carrier has a larger air wing than most countries air forces) but the point still stands.

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      • Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Remove the bases in europe and you can only project power with as many you can pile up on an aircraft carrier.

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• sobchak@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I think the wealthy will get US/corporate-friendly far-right governments in place in many of these countries before countries are able to isolate the US without collapsing their own economy. Seems to be the way things are going at least (far-right politics gaining support nearly everywhere).

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• lechekaflan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  The best answer seems to be what most smart countries are doing right now… slowly unwinding their dependency on the US and finding alternative suppliers for everything critical they need so they can get the leverage they need to criticize and resist. This has the added benefit of isolating the US economically, reducing its currency’s ability to influence things.

  What Mainland China is trying to do: win countries deemed to have been alienated by the Americans.

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• brachiosaurus@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I hate to say it, but there’s no fast answer to that question.

  There’s is indeed a fast and peaceful answer: vote third parties.

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  • Natanael@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Doesn’t work in single vote winner-takes-all elections. You need something like RCV first

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    • Limerance@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Or proportional representation, or a mixed system.

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    • brachiosaurus@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Doesn’t work in single vote winner-takes-all elections.

      If a third party get 70% of the votes they don’t end up in power?

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      • Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        What happens in reality is they get 10% of the second most credible party and Maga wins.

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      • Natanael@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Look up the spoiler effect

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      • jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        youtu.be/s7tWHJfhiyo

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  • edible_funk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Remember kids, in first past the post a vote for third party is a vote for republicans.

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    • brachiosaurus@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Stop spreading non sense and propaganda.

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      • edible_funk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Fucking educate yourself. This is why the world thinks Americans are fucking stupid. So many of us don’t understand basic fuckin civics like this chucklefuck right here not knowing jack shit about spoilers. Half of Americans too fuckin dumb to know they’re carrying ruspublican water.

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  • Soulg@ani.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Ah yes, because the Democrats are just as bad and would’ve done all this anyway!!! Why did nobody else think of that!!!

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    • brachiosaurus@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I don’t get you comment, the democrats are not a third party.

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