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Comment on Indie Game Awards Disqualifies Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 Due To Gen AI Usage

VerseAndVermin@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

They replaced the art later, but shouldn’t the bar be high like this? Otherwise, the caution won’t be there. It also could be abused, like games only getting adjusted post-launch if a certain measure of success hits. Plus the final product is not the only part of matters in the was-AI-used discussion, it is also about the process. If AI is the product of stolen human artwork being fed into a machine, and then that machine is used during creation, then AI has been used in the process that led to the final product no less than the concept art that may not be seen in game but was important in steering the ship.

Maybe someone can share there thoughts though. I’m still formulating mine and this is where I am at the moment.

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novibe@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
No AI is the product of any theft. If we’re talking about piracy, piracy is NOT theft. I thought we all agreed on this already.

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SalamenceFury@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
There is no use of Gen AI in an indie game that should be tolerated. Period.

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- brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  That’s just not going to happen.
  
  Nearly any game with more than a few people involved is going have someone use cursor code completion, or use one for reference or something. They could pull in libraries with a little AI code in them, or use an Adobe filter they didn’t realize is technically GenAI, or commission an artist that uses a tiny bit in their workflow.
  
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  - SalamenceFury@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
    Doesn’t matter. AI literally hallucinates 90% of the bullshit it spews and it steals from artists.
    
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- warm@kbin.earth ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  In any game, not just indies.
  
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  - SalamenceFury@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
    True but I don’t expect AAA studio business suits to understand that.
    
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- Psionicsickness@reddthat.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Your categorically wrong.
  
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  - njm1314@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    His categorically wrong what?
    
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    tomalley8342@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    His grammarly.ai subscription must have ran out.
    
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halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
They didn’t just replace the art later. It was intended to be placeholder art from the beginning. And was replaced 5 days after release. That tells me that they just missed replacing those temporary assets among tens of thousands of assets before release.

Using GenAI for something temporary that’s not intended to be final seems like the perfect use case for it. Especially on a small team where artist time is much better spent working on the final assets.

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brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
If we’re banning games over how they make concept art… I’m not sure how you expect to enforce that. How could you possibly audit that?

Are you putting coding tools in this bucket?

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- Katana314@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Same way you’d celebrate a studio for “No workplace abuse.” People would have to come forward to testify about it, as concept art generation is very likely to arise from hiring fewer artists.
  
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