I was once given cocaine eye drops in a hospital though (it’s a combined vasoconstrictor and analgesic, which makes it good for facial injuries that tend to hurt and swell/bleed a lot). Just because something can have a clinical use case doesn’t make it safe for anyone to use it regularly.
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GreenDust@lemmings.world 21 hours agoI also hate all the misinformation surrounding fentanyl, fucking surgeons use it for fucks sake, shits safe as long as you don’t abuse it.
idiomaddict@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Starski@lemmy.zip 20 hours ago
Comparing nitrous oxide to fentanyl is actually fucking stupid.
ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 19 hours ago
True, fentanyl might kill you while nitrous will just put you in a wheelchair for the rest of your life. With poor fine motor so even gooning won’t be the same.
BussyCat@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
If Steve O didn’t end up in a wheelchair from his nitrous use, then I think that might be a hyperbole…
Starski@lemmy.zip 14 hours ago
Only if you abuse it. Like I had said already.
baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 19 hours ago
you’re right, one can be bought legally and used to even be available on amazon and the other gets you in jail
ulterno@programming.dev 13 hours ago
I also hate all the misinformation surrounding Ivermectin, horse vets use it for horses’ sake, shits safe as long as you don’t abuse it.
DahGangalang@infosec.pub 21 hours ago
Had a minor surgery earlier this year. They have me fentanyl as the drug to put me under. Was hella surprised about it. Also I see why people love that shit so much.
But also for fentanyl’s danger, I think it comes down to how small a dose you need to hit the LD50/50 point is so low that you can hit it by accident without even trying. Street drugs are also being laced with Fentanyl and not in safe / well regulated doses. If you had a lab grade supplier, it’d probably be safer / easier to do safely…but I don’t think that’s what people are doing…
Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works 13 hours ago
Are you sure the fentanyl wasn’t supplemental to something else like propofol? It’s not used for anesthesia induction before surgery AFAIK, just pain relief afterwards. If the IV burned a little when they pushed the plunger down on a syringe full of milky fluid, that was propofol.
But I can see an anesthesiologist saying something like, “We’re going to put you under now. We’ll give you fentanyl so you won’t be in pain when you wake up.”
DahGangalang@infosec.pub 11 hours ago
I’m not sure.
I want to say they gave me two stages of anesthetic, but I also think fentanyl was the first of the two stages (counter to what you’re saying should have happened). But also, I’m at best an amateur at chemistry; even less when it comes to medicine. That said, reasonably certain what they gave me was not milky nor did it burn going in (you’ll have to excuse me if I misremember any deets, it was my first time going under and I was irrationally nervous about it)
I could have some things mixed up, but it did stand out in my mind that they used fentanyl (and I remember how fuckin’ nice it felt when they threw it in my veins). But that’s how I remember it.
Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
I don’t know what order they should have been given in. Maybe the fentanyl was first? Did your tongue just go numb and your vision go dark for a few seconds before you passed out or did it feel like an angel tossed you into a zero gravity hot tub and instantly jerked you off?