Comment on Dude read the rules of woman only community and decided to post anyway

• brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  To correct your ‘public park’ analogy, the space is public. Men can wander in. But it has clear signs posted at the only entrance saying its a space for women to speak, please be quiet, otherwise.

  If you wander in and violate that rule, that is no one’s fault but yours.

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  personally i have a dick but i don’t really identify as being a ‘man’. nor do identify as being a ‘woman’. i’m just a person. so am i therefore allowed to commentate? or is the mods who determine my sex/gender status, regardless of how i perceive myself?

  …A primary reason for that rule is basically “don’t be a dick about this being a women’s only space, please.”

  If you feel you qualify as a woman to speak in the space, go for it! That’s the idea. But you specifically say "nor do [I] identify as being a ‘woman’. "

  But making an issue out of it is exactly what is unwanted.

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  • TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    just because i feel that way doesn’t mean the people in charge feel that way.

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    • brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’m not trying to grandstand. My issue is with these presumptions:

      like if the mods want to auto-ban everyone who doesn’t personally verify with them their womanhood, that’s their business. but expecting people to self-police their gender is a dumb expectation.

      They’re not checking you at the door. They aren’t auto banning anyone. They very politely point out the sidebar to a few posters, then request them to stay quiet; that’s the extent of it.

      …If you don’t make an issue of that, it’s not an issue.

      if you want a private exclusive type of space… then make it private and exclusive. that way you can control who views and interacts with the event and even hire security to keep the ‘wrong’ people out.

      But this is unrealistic, as then they wouldn’t get nearly as much participation in the space. It’s a public gathering spot, by choice.

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      Again, my specific problem is with poster the mods point out the rules to, yet willingly choose to ignore them.

      Just because you think rules are unrealistic does not give you a right to ignore them once asked. That’s how every community here works. Yet they seem to get tons of posters carrying that attitude.

      That’s what makes me bristle. Respecting community rules (once known) is basic human civility, and people are perfectly capable of ‘self-policing’ that. I do not like the rejection of that, and the policing of others in its place.

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• Rivalarrival@lemmy.today ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The public park is owned by everyone, not just the women. You would be correct to be upset by men being excluded from this public space.

  Comms are not public assets. Your use of any comm is entirely at the pleasure of the administrators of that comm, and their designated moderators.

  Your opinion on the way they implement and enforce their rules is entirely irrelevant within their comm.

  My suggestion would be to do what you would for any other comm whose behavior you do not support and/or whose rules you find reprehensible: block them and move on.

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  • TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    they should make their community private then. that way they can control who virtually walks in the door, so to speak.

    as is, there is no door.

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    • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You are entitled to your opinion. They are entitled to theirs. I am entitled to my opinion: what they do with their space and who they allow into it is no concern of yours. Mind your own business, and leave them to mind theirs.

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    • Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      But we are allowed, and encouraged to read it, just not post. It is public.

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• Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Lets say you go to a public building and in that public building there is a room marked women only, lets say in that room are some toilets, would go in that room? Since it’s a public space in the same building as all the other public space, the only difference is that portion of the space is understood to be only for women, or those that identify as women.

  You may stumble in accidentally, and you will be gently corrected, but if you keep stumbling in, it’s gonna start to seem weird.

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  • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Perhaps this is an exception, but I’ve disregarded that rule to use the building’s only baby changing table a bunch of times.

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    • Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah, that’s fine, a bit outside the metaphor as there is no analog.

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    • TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      a lot of places have rebranded those to ‘family restrooms’. which is great.

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  • TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    yeah i would. esp if the men’s room was locked.

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