You should read up on the concept of the Canon. They are part of the New Testament, which is part of the Bible, which is Scripture. This is objective fact. There is no slinking away from that even if the words may disturb you.
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trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 19 hours agoThe bible doesn’t suggest that the bible is the word of man
Al the books in the new testament are named after the man who told the story or wrote the letters, so yes it does.
Rothe@piefed.social 16 hours ago
trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Scripture does not mean word of god. It just means a bunch of dudes in 325 C.E. decided that they thought that should be considered truth.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 hours ago
This is objective fact.
No. It’s subjective labeling far removed from facts.
michaelmrose@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
I think its pretty clear that the word of man is not just like their opinion its the inspiration of the divine. It’s not really up for debate.
Jyek@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
It’s funny, it is in fact up for debate which texts are divinely inspired as all the major churches have different canonizations around the world. Lots of crossover obviously, but plenty of questions about what should and shouldn’t be in the Bible.
madjo@feddit.nl 17 hours ago
But those men were divinely inspired, right? After all that’s what I, an atheist, keep hearing from apologists.
Jyek@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
Divine inspiration is not God taking over the body of man to write some words down. Despite what atheist on the internet want you to believe, religious scholars are still scholars and do have quite a high bar for intelligent discussion.
trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Other Christians in this thread sen to think you’re wrong and it’s not even up for debate lemmy.world/post/38611837/20430136
Jyek@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
That’s not at all what that person said. Also I may be wrong but I think that person is making a joke.
I didn’t say the book of Timothy was not Divine Inspiration. I said Divine Inspiration is not God taking over the body of a man to write his thoughts down for us. Instead, Divine Inspiration is more akin to teaching that have God’s stamp of approval.
If you want an interesting topic to search around though, look into canonization of scripture. Churches all around the world have different books that are regarded as canon and divinely inspired. The Bible is not as straightforward as any church would have you believe.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 hours ago
You’re saying it not hearing it.
madjo@feddit.nl 9 hours ago
I’m not promoting anything, I’m sharing what I keep getting flung to my head