Comment on arborholing

LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Keep in mind that “Welcome to Nightvale” is a Lovecraftian comedy podcast set in the fictional town of Nightvale

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• TheFogan@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I mean it’s true… but there’s a pretty reasonable case that humans aren’t sentient. We think we’re doing shit for a good reason but at the end of the day on a large scale we’re just going through the motions of what our environment leads us to do.

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  • stray@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This is why I don’t like determining an organism’s value based on how “sentient” it is. I prefer to admit that I treat dogs and pigs better than carrots and fish because I empathize with them more, entirely of my own bias. I don’t think I have any more or less value than a blade of grass; we’re both products of happenstance just running our programming, and we won’t be around long.

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• urandom@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Plants aren’t sentient.

  That’s what Big Vegan wants you to think!

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• Nikls94@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Plants aren’t sentient by our understanding of sentience there’s evidence that they communicate via the mycelium network and give their own offspring more nutrients than others. That‘s the two I can think of without googling

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  • FishFace@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What other understanding of sentience would we fucking use?!
    The mycelium network thing is way overblown - it allows some crude, undetected signals to pass.

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    • Nikls94@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I see it as a problem to solve - we know that signals pass because of the results, but we have yet to detect them

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      • FishFace@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I typo’d “undirected” if that affects anything.

        My point is, people talk about this as if it’s the plants having a nice chat and a cup of tea and talking about politics. It isn’t - it’s more like a dog being able to smell some dog piss and understand something about the dog that pissed there.

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  • spankinspinach@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They also nurse their sick and keep stumps from dying - from The Secret Life of Trees, which also supports your comments

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• robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  some plants respond to stimuli, they aren’t sapient. cuss out your local science fiction editor.

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  • LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Literally all life responds to stimuli

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  • mathemachristian@hexbear.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Plants arent sentient. water reacts to “stimuli”, reacting to your surroundings does not imply sentience 🤦

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