Comment on Many developers leave GZDoom due to leader conflicts and fork it into UZDoom

rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• rikudou@lemmings.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Well, I personally don’t give a shit whether something is made by a human or a machine as long as the code is performing well and is readable.

  Lucky for you and me both, AI is nowhere near capable of replacing a developer.

  Learning new things is still needed, AI is good for mediocre tasks that need no real intelligence, but anything else still needs a human.

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  • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Yup. I use AI when I need a “good enough” result. I do it myself when I need an actually good and provably correct result.

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    • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      So far I’ve been impressed with what AI can do with coding. I had it write some scripts for me on one of my previous work tasks and it did the majority of the code writing and even majorly assisted the debug process.

      And now I’m using it for another task and it’s already improved significantly since the last one. You can now interrupt it if if gets stuck in some kind of loop and the required debug phases are fewer. Hell, it’s even reading between the lines of my prompts effectively and implemented a verbosity feature in a second script just because I had requested it in the first one.

      With the first task, I was holding its hand as far as data structures and such were concerned. This time, I’m instructing it at a higher level. And while it does help that I can understand the code it generates, I said last time that it was good enough to start replacing interns, I think at this point it’s ready to start replacing junior programming positions.

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• mattgolsen@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I struggle with similar feelings, although in other disciplines. I’m going to ask you the same questions I ask myself because they help center me when I’m in a similar mental space.

  Who do you create for? Do you create for those people that don’t value your work? Do you create for yourself, for your own satisfaction? Do you create for external recognition?

  I think we’ll turn this corner as a society, especially as everything becomes further enshittified. Inherent value and authenticity, the process and the work are all things that I do believe we all care about, but we’ve been spoiled with the convenience of everything.

  I hope things get better for you.

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• DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I recommend a movie night.

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  • rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I actually got out to see Aliens at the cinema lately and it was fuckin awesome. I have a few films I want to watch! Any recommendations tho?

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    • DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Jennifer’s body, American horror story, and true blood.

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      • rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        The Witch is SO good. I’ve actually never seen First Blood. Great shout.

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    • SaraTonin@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Since it’s October, 3 recent horrors which are all great in different ways:

      Sinners, Heretic, and Companion.

      Try to go in to the latter with as little knowledge as possible. Like, try to avoid looking at the poster.

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• Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  My answer to you is that I fully expect the ability to do stuff yourself to be seen as extremely valuable in about 2 or 3 years. This whole AI thing is pretty definitely a bubble, and on top of that it also looks to me like the blockchain and metaverse tech-fads, and I strongly believe that when the bubble bursts people that can say “I spent all that time learning to do things myself rather than rely on ai to do my thinking for me” are going to be the only people with careers.

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• NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I’m rapidly feeling like it’s pointless to bother learning when you can badly cobble something together with a chatbot and the managers of the world will ejaculate themselves dry about how good robots are, even when the bloody thing barely functions.

  Rhetorical question: How much of your decade of development has been in a professional capacity

  That has ALWAYS been true. A barely functioning Proof Of Concept has always been sexy. Someone has an idea, they make a barely functioning example of it working (often depending on stack overflow and asking others for help), show it to Management, and get money. With Management often thinking how they can either rapidly patent something in there or sell it off to a larger company.

  Nothing there is new aside from “AI” replacing “ask Stack Overflow”.

  And, just to be clear, that was also true in the hobbyist space. Think about how often you saw an article like “someone recreated PT in Unreal Engine!!!” (not to mention PT itself being the kind of project you give a new hire to learn the toolchain but…). Same with all those emulators that “added VR” and so forth. They are cool concepts that tend to not go anywhere or…

  Once a POC becomes a Product? That is where knowledge matters. You no longer want the answer someone shat out while waiting for a belle claire video to download. You need to actually define your corner cases, improve performance, and build out a roadmap.

  And… that ALSO isn’t about learning new tools and tech. A lot of that comes out of it, but that is where the difference between “computer programmer” and "software engineer’ comes into play. Because it becomes an engineering problem where you define and implement testing frameworks and build out the gitlab issues and so forth.

  Like, a LOT of dumbfucks try to speedrun their way to management because it is more money. But the reality is that a good Engineer SHOULD become a manager as they “grow up”. Because you need people with technical ability to have a say in building out that roadmap and in allocating resources to different issues. Optimally you still get to code a lot (I am a huge fan of middle management in that regard) but… yeah.

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  • rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I see what you’re saying, but I’m not talking about proof of concepts. I’m talking about “fully fledged” Frankenstein apps that get cobbled together by cowboys. Documentation written by ChatGPT that is full of hallucinations. Managers love that stuff because the thing they’ve asked for works but nothing outside of that one thing works, which doesn’t matter because they’re not testing it.

    I’m not talking about small proof of concepts. I was referring to myself in a professional capacity as a developer; I’ve been a web developer full time since 2015.

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    • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Managers love that stuff because the thing they’ve asked for works but nothing outside of that one thing works, which doesn’t matter because they’re not testing it.

      Yeah. That is a POC. It is what you use to get funding, have lawyers write up a patent, or shop around the company

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      • rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        That is not what I’m saying - the situation I’m describing is the situation I’m currently in: I work for a small web agency, we have the agency owner, the project manager, and the development lead as our “management”.

        A client asks for something, the agency owner says yes, and then the development lead cobbles something together over the course of a few hours with results from ChatGPT or Claude.

        The thing works, but only for that specific request and cannot handle edge cases, and he doesn’t know how it works nor how to extend it, so he cobbles on more ChatGPT or Claude results.

        The management team love it, but it’s just mountains of technical debt piling up.

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  • Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Unreal PT was actually really good lol. But yeah most of those Unreal Engine “remakes” are just a couple of graphics assets with no real gameplay or content

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